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Discussion in 'Wii - Backup Loaders' started by TudorBlue, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. TudorBlue
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    Anyway of shrinking wii iso's so I could fit more on my hdd. I have seen on other forums that there are usb loader iso's. How do these differ from the usual wii iso?

    Edit what is a ".ciso"? Ive still got a lot to learn about backup loaders and stuff so any help on this will be very much appreciated. Also what is a .wbfs file? I take it its got something to do with WBFS manager??
     
  2. Krestent

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    Scrub it, then rar it.
     
  3. TudorBlue
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    Ive downloaded a .ciso file but when I go to put it on my hdd, I cannot see the file when I browse for it in my wbfs manager. What do need do to get my wbfs manager to recognise it?
     
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    .WBFS is the best option for playing on Wii from a hard drive. .WDF or extracted filesystem is the best for storage on a PC.

    It depends on how the user makes it. Most of the time, update partitions were removed. Brawl has many partitions, including a system update and some virtual console demos. Putting that into WBFS removes those things, but keeps the game data. If you were to burn it to a disc, you couldn't update from the disc at all. (The disc would still play.) No matter how you played it, you would not get the VC trials.

    Mario Kart Wii loses the ability to install the MKW Channel. Same idea with Wii Fit.

    99% of Wii games retain all functionality. If you need an IOS included in an update and it is removed, I think (NOT SURE) you can get it with NUS downloader or Gecko OS.

    edit: Convert formats with WIT.
     
  5. George Dawes

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    A .wbfs file is what the loaders use when you use a FAT/NTFS drive. .ciso is the format used by uloader.

    Both are scrubbed down to the smallest possible size.

    Converting to .wbfs doesn't necessarily get rid of the update/extra partitions. wbfs_file lets you choose when you convert:

    -a : Copy ALL partitions from ISO [default]
    -g : Copy only game partition from ISO
    -1 : Copy 1:1 from ISO
     
  6. Burton

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    "Compressed Iso". Like George stated, Uloader is the propietary of that format.
     
  7. TudorBlue
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    Ahhhhh, right. Thanks. is there anyway to change the format by any chance? If so, how?
     
  8. George Dawes

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    THESE tools will let you convert between formats.
     
  9. Burton

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    Wii Backup Manager and Wii Game manager among other pc applications can convert ciso to iso or wbfs and backwards.
     
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    quote from http://wit.wiimm.de/info/iso-images.html#ciso
    CISO : Compact ISO
    CISO is an other compact file format. CISO stores only WBFS sectors that are needed. Like WDF, the CISO container can be used for any files and not only for Wii discs. The standard extensions are ".ciso" (default) and ".wbi".

    A technical answer: http://wit.wiimm.de/r/ciso
     
  11. TudorBlue
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    Thanks for the help guys, its appreciated. Which manager is the best one to use?? At The mo, Im using WBFS manager but Ive read negative comments about it. What is WiiBackup manager like? or any others come to think about it?
     
  12. TRushInfo

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    wii backup manager ftw
     
  13. Julian Sidewind

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    When Wii Game Manager converts an .iso file to a .wbfs file, does it scrub the game?

    Because i remember WBFS manager scrubbed the game when it put it on a wbfs partition.
     
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    id ont know about wii game man, but w backup man lets you choose how to add i.e. scrubbed 1:1 copy or whatever u want
     
  15. Burton

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    Nop, but compress the iso thus make the iso size smaller. FYI there is this list which gives you an idea of the expected size of most games.