Hacking Is there a way to disable my wiikey?

[Lexip;]

Did you try updating the firmware? I would do that, before you somehow get back on 4.3 and have this whole problem again.

 

[flo]

If you want to disable the chip run the config disc and do a firmware upgrade but turn off the console in the process . That will corrupt the chip and disable it . Don't worry , you can enable it again by running the config disc again .

 

[JoostinOnline]

If you want to disable the chip run the config disc and do a firmware upgrade but turn off the console in the process . That will corrupt the chip and disable it . Don't worry , you can enable it again by running the config disc again .

That is a retarded idea. The problem is solved anyway. If the user wants to play discs region free he needs to downgrade to 4.1.

 

[burritoboy9984]

If you want to disable the chip run the config disc and do a firmware upgrade but turn off the console in the process . That will corrupt the chip and disable it . Don't worry , you can enable it again by running the config disc again .

That is a retarded idea. The problem is solved anyway. If the user wants to play discs region free he needs to downgrade to 4.1.

It actually isn't a retarded idea. This is how I disabled mine

-Erik

 

[JoostinOnline]

If you want to disable the chip run the config disc and do a firmware upgrade but turn off the console in the process . That will corrupt the chip and disable it . Don't worry , you can enable it again by running the config disc again .

That is a retarded idea. The problem is solved anyway. If the user wants to play discs region free he needs to downgrade to 4.1.

It actually isn't a retarded idea. This is how I disabled mine

-Erik

My point is that it is unnecessary.

 

[WiiPower]

Aaaarrgggghhh!

Get priiloader, get to know which region free patches in priiloader are the good ones and then activate them. This should solve the problem if it really has something to do with the region-free setting of the chip. After this you should be able to boot the config disc and check out what's wrong.

It might also be possible to run the config disc in a loader, but i'm not sure. But worst case should be that you need to use NeoGamma(set to internal GC mode) and install the recommend cMIOS from here:
http://gbatemp.net/t219243-neogamma-r9-beta-test
Well only if just booting it in Gecko OS doesn't work, which is possible, because gamecube compatiblity is not 100% this way. And yes, compatiblity with retail discs.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Aaaarrgggghhh!

Get priiloader, get to know which region free patches in priiloader are the good ones and then activate them. This should solve the problem if it really has something to do with the region-free setting of the chip. After this you should be able to boot the config disc and check out what's wrong.

It might also be possible to run the config disc in a loader, but i'm not sure. But worst case should be that you need to use NeoGamma(set to internal GC mode) and install the recommend cMIOS from here:
http://gbatemp.net/t219243-neogamma-r9-beta-test
Well only if just booting it in Gecko OS doesn't work, which is possible, because gamecube compatiblity is not 100% this way. And yes, compatiblity with retail discs.

How many times do I need to say that the region free patches are for retail discs only? The only way for the OP to use out-of-region discs is to downgrade to 4.1.

 

[WiiPower]

What do you mean with "the region free patches are for retail discs only"???

Does the chip only region free retail discs but not burned discs? Makes no sense

There aren't working region free patches for 4.3 available? This would be pretty bad, and then you say it works for retail discs, so...

I just don't get what you mean. Or do you mean that those crappy region free patches the chip has built-in only work for system menu up to 4.1? You got that i was talking about priiloader?

 

[JoostinOnline]

What do you mean with "the region free patches are for retail discs only"???

Does the chip only region free retail discs but not burned discs? Makes no sense

There aren't working region free patches for 4.3 available? This would be pretty bad, and then you say it works for retail discs, so...

I just don't get what you mean. Or do you mean that those crappy region free patches the chip has built-in only work for system menu up to 4.1? You got that i was talking about priiloader?

I was saying that the region free patches in Priiloader don't allow you to play out-of-region burned discs, even with a modchip. For example, Priiloader patches on 4.3U would allow someone to play a PAL retail disc, but not a PAL burned disc.

 

[WiiPower]

Any source for this? It would mean that the system menu could detect a difference between a burned disc and a retail disc, even if you have a modchip. And if the system menu could do that, why only block burned + wrong region with a good protection, why not both seperately? Or are you saying that priiloader does detect the difference and blocks burned discs, not the system menu itself? That would be understandable if the priiloader author doesn't like backups.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Any source for this? It would mean that the system menu could detect a difference between a burned disc and a retail disc, even if you have a modchip. And if the system menu could do that, why only block burned + wrong region with a good protection, why not both seperately? Or are you saying that priiloader does detect the difference and blocks burned discs, not the system menu itself? That would be understandable if the priiloader author doesn't like backups.

I don't know what causes it. This is based on past experience when I have told hardmod users to enable region free with Priiloader on 4.2/4.3, but it only worked with retail discs.

I admit it is possible that I am wrong and that there is some other factor playing into it. Maybe it's only true in some cases. I just know that every time I suggested it (about 4 or 5 times before I gave up trying), downgrading to 4.1 was the only way to solve it. If you can provide some evidence that suggests otherwise, I would greatly appreciate it if you posted it or PM'd me.

 

[WiiPower]

Can you link me to an example where the same disc as retail worked, while the burned and unpatched 1:1 copy didn't? Or one where import retail games worked on 4.3 and the import burned started to work after downgrading? Oh and it would need to be the same wii region in this case of course.

As long as i don't get a good example, i have to assume it's "user's fault" and the tested retail games don't like the other video mode, or language forcing would also be required. Also, if any report mentions 001 error or 002 error, it's not a region issue.

If it's a region free issue, it should refuse to even start loading. If it's a video mode or language issue, i expect a black screen freeze before the game boots at all, or rarely a freeze before the game enters its main menu. If the game reboots, i expect the required IOS is not installed.

Ah, i think i got it:
Burned discs are often patched. Mostly by clueless modchip users that are told they need to region free patch discs, use brickcrap, remove 001/002 manually, patch the game to use another IOS etc. If the game is patched in any way(brickcrap might be an exception), then the system menu IOS needs to accept trucha signed content, so it needs to be one of the ancient IOS or the IOS needs to be patched.

 

[JoostinOnline]

Can you link me to an example where the same disc as retail worked, while the burned and unpatched 1:1 copy didn't? Or one where import retail games worked on 4.3 and the import burned started to work after downgrading? Oh and it would need to be the same wii region in this case of course.

As long as i don't get a good example, i have to assume it's "user's fault" and the tested retail games don't like the other video mode, or language forcing would also be required. Also, if any report mentions 001 error or 002 error, it's not a region issue.

If it's a region free issue, it should refuse to even start loading. If it's a video mode or language issue, i expect a black screen freeze before the game boots at all, or rarely a freeze before the game enters its main menu. If the game reboots, i expect the required IOS is not installed.

Ah, i think i got it:
Burned discs are often patched. Mostly by clueless modchip users that are told they need to region free patch discs, use brickcrap, remove 001/002 manually, patch the game to use another IOS etc. If the game is patched in any way(brickcrap might be an exception), then the system menu IOS needs to accept trucha signed content, so it needs to be one of the ancient IOS or the IOS needs to be patched.

Thank you very much, that would be the factor I hadn't considered. I assumed that they were unpatched, but I never asked. They guide I linked to for downgrading also installed a patched System Menu IOS.

 

[The Frenchman]

I don't understand why the wiikey would block use of disk channel but not neogamma though. Maybe using Cioscorp would allow you to load via disk channel.

 

[JoostinOnline]

I don't understand why the wiikey would block use of disk channel but not neogamma though. Maybe using Cioscorp would allow you to load via disk channel.

The discs are out of region. The simplest solution to this problem would have been if the OP had rented a US copy of an exploit game like I said in the beginning, but instead he seemed to think switching DVD drives with another Wii was a smart thing to do, lol.

 

[urherenow]

hold up... if the problem is with a backup then you MUST ensure it is a 1:1 copy. If it is fakesigned in any way (wiiscrubbed or whatever) then the mod chip won't help you unless you've patched the system menu IOS AND the IOS used by the game, with the trucha bug.

Most people detest cioscorp, but I personally use both a wiikey2 AND cioscorp for both speed and compatability. everything just works. (everything that I've tried anyway... haven't really tested my setup with MPT since I got the mod chip).

WiiPower got it right.

 

[urherenow]

I was saying that the region free patches in Priiloader don't allow you to play out-of-region burned discs, even with a modchip. For example, Priiloader patches on 4.3U would allow someone to play a PAL retail disc, but not a PAL burned disc.

NOT CORRECT. I'm on 4.3, and play burned Japanese Discs from the disc channel, all the time, on a US Wii. My wife is Japanese (and I currently live in Japan) so I very much have a need for that sort of thing. AND I have a Wiikey2 installed for full 6x speed.


And for further clarification, NOTHING can tell the difference between a Retail and Burned disk with a hardware mod. What does the detection is the drive itself but the chip tells it that everything is legit. When things don't work, it's a region or code signing issue (or something like the NSMB protection that simply doesn't read correctly on a burned disk, although most mod chips fixed that one with a firmware update).

 

[JoostinOnline]

I was saying that the region free patches in Priiloader don't allow you to play out-of-region burned discs, even with a modchip. For example, Priiloader patches on 4.3U would allow someone to play a PAL retail disc, but not a PAL burned disc.

NOT CORRECT. I'm on 4.3, and play burned Japanese Discs from the disc channel, all the time, on a US Wii. My wife is Japanese (and I currently live in Japan) so I very much have a need for that sort of thing. AND I have a Wiikey2 installed for full 6x speed.


And for further clarification, NOTHING can tell the difference between a Retail and Burned disk with a hardware mod. What does the detection is the drive itself but the chip tells it that everything is legit. When things don't work, it's a region or code signing issue (or something like the NSMB protection that simply doesn't read correctly on a burned disk, although most mod chips fixed that one with a firmware update).

You need to read the topic. This was solved long ago. The discussion about Priiloader was solved as well. The reason Priiloader didn't fix region-free on burned discs was also solved.