I figured this should be in a new thread. There are definitely a few games out there right now that seems to be tailored towards "hardcore gamers" but as a gamer myself, it seems that the lack of a lobby online system not just right now....but nothing like that seems to be planned with hurt online games. I mean ...I finish games fast and I love games~ but there are only so much RPGs I can play for a while, I want those online games that I can go into a lobby, load up a game, and play against real people...and know who I beat just so I can beat them again I just finished God of War on PS2 (can't believe I missed this title), waiting for God of War 2, playing Red Steel right now, Zelda is collecting dust, Mario Galaxy and Paper Mario is coming...but they are all story games...I want a good online game of any kind. So what about everyone else? Do you feel that Nintendo is focusing too much on casual gamers coming out with titles that are meant for casual gamers? Do you seem to feel there is something missing when you compare Wii games to xbox360 titles? If you call yourself a hardcore gamer, what do you look for in games?