Gaming Is my game fake or original?

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Hi,
I bought recently Zelda Phantom Hourglass, but I doubt if it is original. The game randomly appears in my 3DS after inserting, but if appears, it works.
Secondly, the font of text on reverse looks strange, it is higher and different than my other games.
I attach photos. Could you help me and say: is my game fake or original?
Thank you.
 

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Hi,
I bought recently Zelda Phantom Hourglass, but I doubt if it is original. The game randomly appears in my 3DS after inserting, but if appears, it works.
Secondly, the font of text on reverse looks strange, it is higher and different than my other games.
I attach photos. Could you help me and say: is my game fake or original?
Thank you.
It looks like a professionally made fake game. If it works, I wouldn't question it. Because, that card could've came with a virus. But, you got the game. But, yeah, it looks fake to me.
 

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If you can open it up then do so as it will allow us to tell very easily, and if it does not work and the contacts on it and your 3ds* look clean then it is "broken" anyway so hey.

*I don't care if it works for 3ds games. If it works for other DS games then maybe.

I have not kept up with the DS fake games world but most of the ones we saw were just cheap DS flash carts programmed and certainly not ones that would work on a modern/fully updated 3ds, does it appear as Zelda when it does appear (others reading might know but as far as I am aware no flash cart used Zelda PH to bypass the checks). To that end it is not entirely without hope that it is legit and maybe just has dirty contacts (or your 3ds does), a bad solder join somewhere and maybe that the seller printed off a label to go on it (assuming it is a replica label and not just a sun damaged one or something). That said it is about the sort of time that we start seeing the proper fakes appear, a quick scan of the various Amazons says Zelda PH is not the most expensive game out there and they usually do go for the more expensive ones (something like Elven Land I guess), though Nintendo staples are common enough targets so it is not like they faked a bad suduko game or something.
 

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Thank you all for that quicky answers! I will try to return the game to the seller.
Hold on, does the game still play properly...? If so, you should keep it. You don't want to get in to that mess with the seller.
 

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Hold on, does the game still play properly...? If so, you should keep it. You don't want to get in to that mess with the seller.

Why not? I bought a fake game, but there was no word about it in the offer. I would like to have an original one in my collection :)
 

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Why not? I bought a fake game, but there was no word about it in the offer. I would like to have an original one in my collection :)
Collection. I see. Send it back. ;P I too collect DS games. ( Well, 3DS games rather. ) I want all of mine to be real.
 

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well everyone told you soit's ok XD
If ypu haven't payed too much for it I think you should have it (or gift me :v) instead of messing with the seller, because looks a good quality, may you can ask discount in a new deal with him since you got fooled? haha
 

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Where did DSi malware come into things? I never saw anything along those lines. Also I doubt people would make a fake convincing enough to work on a 3ds and include something in it.
If anyone would play an infected cart into their DSi, It'd be nighty night to that system. I actually have a game ( card is foreign; language unreadable. ) that has brick code in it for the DS. It messed it up. -
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I was simply stating that his game didn't have anything wrong with it, so they should keep it.
 

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Where did DSi malware come into things? I never saw anything along those lines. Also I doubt people would make a fake convincing enough to work on a 3ds and include something in it.
the only thing i know was a DS homebrew that bricked your console....
that would replace the firmware with a image or a bad annoying GIF...
but i don't remember very well, i think it was disguised as flashme, or something like that since you require to short a connection in order to write to the ds firmware...

anyway, that thing would brick the console, so in this case, this cartridge is not a "virus".
 

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You messed up a DSi with DS brick code? I have never heard of that before and it should not really be possible -- the DS lite largely fixed the bugs in question (as did flashme on the original DS) and that would be a regression in security.
There could be a new bug that was exploited over the ones used by DS malware and there could well have been a regression but I have tried to follow this area (homebrew/hacking delivered brickings and corruption of devices), especially for the DS family and had not heard anything like that. Equally I have to wonder if there was not some kind of short or something on the pins, such a thing has killed many a device over the years.

Basically in the security world there is a term called "movie plot threat", this is not quite that (it is quite realistic to be able to make DS bricking code if you really cared, unlike being able to blow things up by hacking, and any marginally competent ROM hacker that has got as far as basic assembly hacking could do things here) but every time this has come up it has been people worrying about nothing for no reason. I guess this is what tbb043 and I wanted to head off the pass as it were.

the only thing i know was a DS homebrew that bricked your console....
that would replace the firmware with a image or a bad annoying GIF...
but i don't remember very well, i think it was disguised as flashme, or something like that since you require to short a connection in order to write to the ds firmware...
http://www.darkfader.net/ds/ has more on the two out there that you are probably referencing. I believe some copied it into ROMs/padded it out into ROM size and maybe changed the icons, I am not aware of any doing anything I would call proper hacking for it (I am half reluctant to say as saying is 90% of the way to a guide and I would really not inspire idiots that can not take the 5 minutes to figure it out otherwise).
As far as I am aware there was never a version with fake flashme. It was proposed in a discussion once (if flashme protects you then if you get people to bypass it thinking it is an update to flashme...) but I never even saw it worked up into something like that.
 

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Hi,
I bought recently Zelda Phantom Hourglass, but I doubt if it is original. The game randomly appears in my 3DS after inserting, but if appears, it works.
Secondly, the font of text on reverse looks strange, it is higher and different than my other games.
I attach photos. Could you help me and say: is my game fake or original?
Thank you.
EU one looks like that
 

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Its fake the lower left of the sticker is straight edge while a normal card has a curved edge and the words legend of zelda are orange and not red.
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You messed up a DSi with DS brick code? I have never heard of that before and it should not really be possible -- the DS lite largely fixed the bugs in question (as did flashme on the original DS) and that would be a regression in security.
There could be a new bug that was exploited over the ones used by DS malware and there could well have been a regression but I have tried to follow this area (homebrew/hacking delivered brickings and corruption of devices), especially for the DS family and had not heard anything like that. Equally I have to wonder if there was not some kind of short or something on the pins, such a thing has killed many a device over the years.

Basically in the security world there is a term called "movie plot threat", this is not quite that (it is quite realistic to be able to make DS bricking code if you really cared, unlike being able to blow things up by hacking, and any marginally competent ROM hacker that has got as far as basic assembly hacking could do things here) but every time this has come up it has been people worrying about nothing for no reason. I guess this is what tbb043 and I wanted to head off the pass as it were.


http://www.darkfader.net/ds/ has more on the two out there that you are probably referencing. I believe some copied it into ROMs/padded it out into ROM size and maybe changed the icons, I am not aware of any doing anything I would call proper hacking for it (I am half reluctant to say as saying is 90% of the way to a guide and I would really not inspire idiots that can not take the 5 minutes to figure it out otherwise).
As far as I am aware there was never a version with fake flashme. It was proposed in a discussion once (if flashme protects you then if you get people to bypass it thinking it is an update to flashme...) but I never even saw it worked up into something like that.
I meant all of this was done on a DSi. I wasn't indicating a specific system. My English skills are failing me right now.
 
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