Homebrew Is arm9loaderhax worth it right now? [N3DS]

[iAqua]

He wants something even lower level than that, which is not possible currently, but yes, A9LH essentially corrupts FIRM0 and causes the 3DS to boot from elsewhere (it's more technical than that, but that's as simple as I can make right now).

Please tell me the order of boot in a "simple" way like firm0 firm1 nand?

 

[daxtsu]

Please tell me the order of boot in a "simple" way like firm0 firm1 nand?

Assuming no boot failures or emuNAND: BootROMs for both ARM9/ARM11 -> FIRM0 is loaded and checked -> ARM11 waits in a loop, doing nothing -> ARM9 begins initialising things -> Eventually ARM9 tells the ARM11 to wake up -> the rest of the 3DS OS is loaded by ARM11, and you eventually see the home screen

I left out a lot of details there, but it's basically BootROMs -> FIRM loaded from NAND -> initialisations -> 3DS OS. The N3DS has even more steps than that.

 

[iAqua]

Assuming no boot failures or emuNAND: BootROMs for both ARM9/ARM11 -> FIRM0 is loaded and checked -> ARM11 waits in a loop, doing nothing -> ARM9 begins initialising things -> Eventually ARM9 tells the ARM11 to wake up -> the rest of the 3DS OS is loaded by ARM11, and you eventually see the home screen

I left out a lot of details there, but it's basically BootROMs -> FIRM loaded from NAND -> initialisations -> 3DS OS. The N3DS has even more steps than that.

Isn't Ryan working on dumping the bootrom? I know thats gonna take a while, but I also recall another team working on it and collapsing.

 

[daxtsu]

Isn't Ryan working on dumping the bootrom? I know thats gonna take a while, but I also recall another team working on it and collapsing.

Ryan? You mean the guy on Twitter who leaks stuff? Heh. No, if anyone was to dump the bootROMs, it'd probably be Normmatt or one of the guys in #Cakey or #3dsdev.

 

[iAqua]

Ryan? You mean the guy on Twitter who leaks stuff? Heh. No, if anyone was to dump the bootROMs, it'd probably be Normmatt or one of the guys in #Cakey or #3dsdev.

Yeah, I doubted he could do it... But honestly Xenon what are the odds that someone actually dumps the bootrom. Finds an exploit in it AND releases that.

 

[Xenon Hacks]

Yeah, I doubted he could do it... But honestly Xenon what are the odds that someone actually dumps the bootrom. Finds an exploit in it AND releases that.

I think hardware is needed but you can always read irc chat live as things are happening I do so from time to time and ask questions if I have them

 

[iAqua]

I think hardware is needed but you can always read irc chat live as things are happening I do so from time to time and ask questions if I have them

How would I get onto #Cakey? I just want to absorb some knowledge.

 

[Xenon Hacks]

How would I get onto #Cakey? I just want to absorb some knowledge.

I prefer #3dsdev but I use mIRC (pirated) and also get scene releases for anime from #intel

 

[iAqua]

Kay thanks for all of this info.

 

[leonmagnus99]

i have switched to a9lh with both my og and n3ds.

 

[Margen67]

Yes. Most bricks are user error so you should be fine as long as you do everything correctly.
Don't settle and let the Menuhax peasants scare you.
Join the A9LH Master Race.

 

[zdgr4ye5]

I have new3ds and decide to wait, cause some people report bricks

 

[d0k3]

Im saying something on cold boot like bootrom cold, for instance I hard brick but there is a recovery menu (godmore9/decrypt9) I can boot into before anything else runs and write a clean Nand and be back to a functioning 3DS.

As others said, this would actually be more complicated (= perhaps impossible) than one might think. If we had that bootrom dump, and if we could actually edit it, basically anything would be possible., though.

We are actually pretty close to your idea with A9LH though, and as long as A9LH stays untouched, you can recover from basically anything.

 

[mgrev]

As others said, this would actually be more complicated (= perhaps impossible) than one might think. If we had that bootrom dump, and if we could actually edit it, basically anything would be possible., though.

We are actually pretty close to your idea with A9LH though, and as long as A9LH stays untouched, you can recover from basically anything.

any plans on porting sysupdater to a9lh?

 

[daxtsu]

any plans on porting sysupdater to a9lh?

That doesn't really work. The 3DS OS has to be running for sysupdater to function, and during A9LH, FIRM isn't running (hence the 3DS OS isn't either).

 

[mgrev]

That doesn't really work. The 3DS OS has to be running for sysupdater to function, and during A9LH, FIRM isn't running (hence the 3DS OS isn't either).

yeah, but couldn't it have some parts of the system launch

 

[piterayo]

I've installed A9LH mostly on n3DS and I've not had any problems at all. I think it's safe if you go with caution and if you know what you're doing. There's a lot more probability of a fail from the user than from the software used during the process.

 

[KaduPSE]

Menuhax hardly ever fails for me on my N3DS using the old payload in the link I listed above.

I tried the modified payload, I tried Lesshax, and I tried modifying it myself... Still failed many times. It's a big contrast to AL9H which boots everytime.

 

[regnad]

I tried the modified payload, I tried Lesshax, and I tried modifying it myself... Still failed many times. It's a big contrast to AL9H which boots everytime.

Yeah, it seems almost random what works for some people and what doesn't. If everything has horrible boot rate for you, you might as well bite the bullet.

 

[Link_of_Hyrule]

The newest version of the OTP Helper does almost everything for you so if you're already using an emunand that you can downgrade to 2.1 and clone over to your system it checks all the files before it clones them over to ensure they aren't corrupted or anything. The only stuff you really have to do is backup the emunand and sysnand before you downgrade. Also make sure your sysnand is on 9.2 before the downgrade of course but if you're using emunand I assume you have already done this.