Implied 'rape scene' in Hotline Miami 2 draws harsh criticism and debate

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  1. soulx

    soulx GBAtemp Legend

    Apr 4, 2009
    Scene in question, NSFW
  2. ShadowSoldier

    ShadowSoldier GBAtemp Guru

    Oct 8, 2009
    Oh man, diz is liek awsum! dis liek, maeks me wan raep ppl and stuf rite? itz so reelistik!

  3. Bake

    Bake GBAtemp Regular

    Aug 19, 2008
    Why do people care so much holy god
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  4. Foxi4

    Foxi4 On the hunt...

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    Sep 13, 2009
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    Oh dear.

    Now, I'm not going to defend "rape" in video games, but I'd like to state that it's clearly not a game mechanic - it's a part of a cutscene from what I understand. "Hot Line Miami" is a game for mature audiences and if we see rape scenes in movies, books or theatre, I don't see a reason why we shouldn't in video games as long as they serve a purpose - in this case, the purpose of showing the player that his character is a despicable piece of sh*t.
  5. Cortador

    Cortador GBAtemp Fan

    Nov 27, 2008
    United States
    I can't understand anything of what is going on on the screen. :(

    Can someone post a picture of the scene?
  6. Celice

    Celice GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

    Jan 1, 2008
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    If it's part of the narrative and contributes to the work in some fashion, then I see no reason to worry over it. This game seeks to capture a kind of atmosphere and trope, and the rape of a woman, in this context, is merely a part of that categorical packaging.

    Some individuals have a difficult time seeing a difference between exploiting some idea, action, event, or facet and furthering some problematic issue, and rendering that issue as-is for the sake of convention, context, or concern.

    Though I suppose as videogames are primarily a business, publishers and developers are more inclined to bow to public pressure and concern than to really make a work that exists for-itself, rather than for catering towards an audience.
  7. Dork

    Dork Newbie

    Now it's all about MUH FEMINISM and MUH FEELINGS, you can thank all those social justice warriors.
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  8. wrettcaughn

    wrettcaughn Misunderstood Moral Elitist

    Mar 14, 2009
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    Yet when Oz did it, it was ground-breaking television...
  9. Gahars

    Gahars Bakayaro Banzai

    Aug 5, 2011
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    Hooray for contrived, fake controversies!

    I mean, it's just silly. The characters are shooting people and bashing their heads in with wild abandon and yet this is where they're drawing the line? This is a disgusting step too far? Really?

    Maybe consider the context surrounding the scene before picketing and hollering.
  10. wrettcaughn

    wrettcaughn Misunderstood Moral Elitist

    Mar 14, 2009
    United States
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
  11. DS1

    DS1 伝説の雀士

    Feb 18, 2009
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    Not really! While I can't think of a case of public outrage causing censorship of a commercial game, I can think of several cases of 'public outcry' that resulted in the developers taking a firm stance behind their game: The original Mortal Kombat, the latest DMC, Dragon's Crown... and none of these instances of excessive violence or... character design (?) were contextual. The devs were just like, "Quit whining and play game."

    Oh wait, I can think of an example of a developer buckling to pressure - Bioware by creating new endings for all the whiny fans. And that WAS contextual... Yet by the same token they always left in whatever sex/sexuality options they wanted.
  12. Tom Bombadildo

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    I forgot
    I don't see a problem with it if the player doesn't actively participate/choose to rape the woman. It's just part of the story, like any other movie/book/media, and shows how shitty the character is as a person.
  13. The Milkman

    The Milkman GBATemp's Official Asshat Milkman

    Jan 12, 2011
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    Throwing milk at the bitches!
    Oh wow, I had to watch the video twice just to find it. There's been much worse in much more popular games. This is just character building and shit.
  14. Taleweaver

    Taleweaver Storywriter

    Dec 23, 2009
    This, indeed. I played through Hotline Miami. Total ultra-violence and degrading and morally wrong choices everywhere. The fact that this is a movie scène actually makes it LESS violent this time around.

    I know America has these weird standards on sexual things, especially compared to violence...but this is starting to get REALLY silly in this example.
  15. Qtis

    Qtis Grey Knight Inquisitor

    Feb 28, 2010
    The Forge
    Okay Australia, you're up next!

    Somehow I still find it odd that games get so much attention, but violence and the likes in movies and TV series are just fine due to them being crucial to the plot. Oh well..
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  16. Windaga

    Windaga GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Sep 12, 2009
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    How absurd. Of course it's disgusting, revolting, and of poor taste.

    Just like murder, kidnapping, and car jacking are. But no one seems to care about those things. Yes it's pixel rape that crosses the line. Not genocide, not beheadings, not blowing up innocent bystanders cars - but a disgusting character raping someone. What a joke.

    Yeah it's bad. But so is everything else. Complain about that, too. I'm not condoning rape - it's vile and disgusting - but so is ruthless murder.
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  17. Hells Malice

    Hells Malice Are you a bully?

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    The entire game looks like total shit and should just be scrapped.
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  18. SolidSnake95

    SolidSnake95 GBAtemp Regular

    Jul 3, 2013
    United States
    Fuck, you stole the words right out of my mouth.
  19. Black-Ice

    Black-Ice Founder of the Church of Renamon

    Oct 31, 2011
    I'll understand concern if they showed graphite images or a 2 min cutscene of seeing rape.

    But you know, rape happens. And even if thats what was intended to happen in that scene, people should be mature enough to acknowledge it as media.
    Stop sheltering everything.
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  20. Flame

    Flame Me > You

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    Jul 15, 2008
    this is poor taste...

    it should be, you fuck her and than kill her to get your money.
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