Hacking Homebrew I’m trying to get Swiss on the Wii for Mario Eclipse but I’m having problems

[JellyFishPaint]

SD Gecko doesn't work as a memory card, but I think Swiss has memory card emulation, not sure how compatible it is as I've never used it, but should be in the Swiss settings. I use an official 1019 block memory card, plenty of space for any game I could want to play and it was only like $20.

So I set up the memory card emulation like you said and found out a few things. So memory card emulation works almost every time except with games that use audio streaming. Games with audio streaming cannot be saved using this method. which game of choice has audio streaming? Super Mario Eclipse lmao. So it can’t be saved unfortunately using this method but memory card emulation works for 99% of the other games that don’t use audio steaming.

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You're welcome.

Yes, you need to set up Swiss for memory card emulation to use your SD Card to save games. Memory Cards run in EXI mode, SD Cards in SPI mode. Games that aren't certain Japanese versions of Animal Crossing have no idea how to even talk to SD Cards. I would recommend against using the official 1019 block (8 MB) memory card, because they seem to have a far higher than normal failure rate, especially on the Wii.

I mainly use Swiss to load Crystal Chronicles on the Wii, because Nintendont doesn't support 576p and Devolution doesn't support retail discs, and I use my childhood memory card (256 blocks, AKA 2 MB if anyone's curious - Colosseum Mega Pak!) to save that game, so I'm not too familiar with enabling it. From what I can gather (this info is a few years old) you need to enable Boot from IPL for the emulation to work.

On the GameCube I use it for my Game Boy Player because Game Boy Interface is great and I also got it cheap because it didn't have the Start-Up Disk. To boot Swiss there I use an Action Replay disk and a copy of Swiss called "autoexec.dol" - gotta love FAT32 eh? No hardlinking! (Then again if I really cared I could recompile Wii Swiss Booter to look for autoexec.dol so eh)

Unfortunately the emulation doesn’t work with games that have audio streaming. So I bought a memory card to put in slot A. It should be here tomorrow. We are super excited.

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Anyway, thank you all so much for taking the time out of your day and helping me out. I seriously appreciate it so much. You guys are awesome. Cant wait to play the levels that the little one will ultimately get stuck on. Time to relive my childhood!

 

[The Real Jdbye]

So I set up the memory card emulation like you said and found out a few things. So memory card emulation works almost every time except with games that use audio streaming. Games with audio streaming cannot be saved using this method. which game of choice has audio streaming? Super Mario Eclipse lmao. So it can’t be saved unfortunately using this method but memory card emulation works for 99% of the other games that don’t use audio steaming.

Post automatically merged: Sep 2, 2024

Unfortunately the emulation doesn’t work with games that have audio streaming. So I bought a memory card to put in slot A. It should be here tomorrow. We are super excited.

Post automatically merged: Sep 2, 2024

Anyway, thank you all so much for taking the time out of your day and helping me out. I seriously appreciate it so much. You guys are awesome. Cant wait to play the levels that the little one will ultimately get stuck on. Time to relive my childhood!

Right. Apparently, apart from audio streaming games, games that require disc read speed emulation will also not work with virtual memory cards. There's only one of those: Tales of Symphonia.
It's apparently a limitation of not having enough free system resources, so it's unlikely it will ever change.

I expect Mario Eclipse will get fixed on Nintendont since it does support audio streaming so it's probably a bug specific with that game. Could also be a 32k alignment issue since Nintendont expects games to be 32k aligned and it causes issues with audio streaming games if they aren't. Official clean rips are always 32k aligned but the mod creator may not have taken care to 32k align the files during the patching process. It's simple to 32k align the files afterwards using certain tools.

 

[N7Kopper]

Makes sense that Swiss would run into hard limits on resources - the GCN was never designed for loading games off of things that aren't the optical drive.

 

[komakaji]

guys i'm writing here because i don't know who to ask. i managed to get mario eclipse on swiss to work but the same lag that is on the gamecube is also on the wii. does anyone have an idea why this happens?

 

[filthcube]

Both Devolution and Nintendont use IOS 58, so the state of MIOS and BC don't matter to them at all. (This is the entire point of the IOS architecture) The SD Media Launcher is just an SD Gecko, but without the fast I/O mode. The GameCube memory card port - like the PS2's - electrically supports SD Cards: the dongle is just a passthrough.

That's a really roundabout solution when installing the proper cMIOS is so much easier. If you can't find it, OP, I'll send you a link. In the PMs, because Nintendo Ninjas. I have all the MIOS stuff sitting on my SD Card juuust in case.

do you think you could PM me the link for the proper cMIOS? im trying to get swiss to work as well and ive downloaded multiple others and they all havent worked out ):

 

[offalynne]

wanted to share for posterity since this thread turns up in searches that i had the same goal, getting mario eclipse running with music on wii, and was able to do so. launching the swiss dol from WiiXplorer without a modified cMIOS installed did not work, and i did not find a pre-prepared cMIOS wad online that would work, and using NUS downloader on Windows did not work. what did work:

Ingredients:
- Softmodded GameCube compatible Wii
- 32GB SanDisk Ulta SD card for front slot
- GC2SD in GameCube memory card slot
- 16GB Kingston Canvas Select Plus MicroSD for GC2SD
- Wifi connection

Directions:
- Format MicroSD for GC2SD to FAT32
- Download latest Swiss release, move DOL folder contents to MicroSD for GC2SD root
- Rename the swiss_[...] dol file to "swiss.dol"
- Download "Wii Swiss Booter" homebrew, move contents to "apps" folder on MicroSD for GC2SD
- Download "Installer for WiiGator's cMIOS" homebrew, move contents to "apps" folder on SD for front slot
- Place SD cards, plug the GC2SD into GameCube memory card slot
- Boot Wii to Homebrew Channel
- Press Wii Remote "1" or GameCube "X" and select "Internal SD Slot > Ok"
- Run "Installer for WiiGator's cMIOS", select "IOS249"
- MIOS menu > Install patched MIOSv10 > Download MIOS from NUS > Return to Homebrew Menu
- Press Wii Remote "1" or GameCube "X" and select "SDGecko Slot > Ok"
- Run "Wii Swiss Booter"

after this install process i am able to boot swiss without issue, and mario eclipse works with music. there may well be other ways to do this, but this is what worked for me