Hardware I'm really confused on how the Xbox 360 handles dvd drives....

[DinohScene]

Thought that late 16d4s required the kamikaze nonsense no? and 16d5s are not flashable to this day. Unless i am sorely out of date.

16D4S drives can be dumped.
Flashing it requires a Kamikaze/Sputnik, depending on the PCB chipset.

16D5S drives need a RGH in order to obtain the drive keys.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

so my hunch was right
I corrected my first post to mention that XD.
kamikaze is not for the faint of heart. RGH as much as i love doing them at that point i personally would not revert back to retail but thats just me. LOL
I recall doing RGH2 and buying one of those cheapo LTU2 clone boards off ebay a few years back. I got a slim that had a missing dvd drive. good times.

 

[DinohScene]

16D4S drives don't need any additional hardware to have their firmware dumped.
Having a 16D4S drive in a console is a preferable thing if one wants to install an Xkey in there.

I don't know why people are still bothering with disc based backups.
Harddrives come cheap and Xkeys aren't to crazy expensive neither.
You've got one for the price of 2-3 Verbatim cakeboxes.
But you know, some like to cheap out on convenience I guess.

 

[MrMcTiller]

so my hunch was right
I corrected my first post to mention that XD.
kamikaze is not for the faint of heart. RGH as much as i love doing them at that point i personally would not revert back to retail but thats just me. LOL

 

[WD_GASTER2]

Yeah, I know what you mean i have seen Xkeys for 20 bucks in a lot of places. Personally and just because i like homebrew i rather spend the 5 bucks on glitch chip and call it a day. Thats neither here nor there in this case though .

 

[MrMcTiller]

16D4S drives don't need any additional hardware to have their firmware dumped.
Having a 16D4S drive in a console is a preferable thing if one wants to install an Xkey in there.

I don't know why people are still bothering with disc based backups.
Harddrives come cheap and Xkeys aren't to crazy expensive neither.
You've got one for the price of 2-3 Verbatim cakeboxes.
But you know, some like to cheap out on convenience I guess.

I literally would be happy with just playing legit copies of games. But the drive it came with doesn't have the lid.

 

[DinohScene]

You can gut a broken down PC drive and salvage the top plastic/magnetic donut.
That's the only thing needed to keep the disc in place really ;p

 

[WD_GASTER2]

you are fine though mate. Chances are the drive had custom firmware when the XGD3 update came out and it didnt flash it properly (i remember hearing about that issue a few years back.
To install jungle flasher disable driver signature enforcement in windows (google it) that will give you a good headstart.

and yes that is a billion percent 16d2s.

 

[MrMcTiller]

you are fine though mate. Chances are the drive had custom firmware when the XGD3 update came out and it didnt flash it properly (i remember hearing about that issue a few years back.
To install jungle flasher disable driver signature enforcement in windows (google it) that will give you a good headstart.

and yes that is a billion percent 16d2s.

I disabled the signature enforcement and jungleflasher doesn't pick the drive up. But the bios does. So idk

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You can gut a broken down PC drive and salvage the top plastic/magnetic donut.
That's the only thing needed to keep the disc in place really ;p

I have a bunch of older IDE disk drives. Will those work?

 

[WD_GASTER2]

you may need one of those el cheapo VIA cards like DinohScene mentioned tho.

I have a bunch of older IDE disk drives. Will those work?

if you just need the magnetic donut, yes.

 

[DinohScene]

Yeh just gut them and see if they got that retaining donut in them.
Salvage that one.

 

[MrMcTiller]

Yeh just gut them and see if they got that retaining donut in them.
Salvage that one.

ok. I'll see if that works. I'm still not sure why windows doesn't pick up the drive at all. Maybe linux will??

 

[WD_GASTER2]

well pop in a legit disc with the donut and see if it will start the game for you. you may be in luck.

 

[MrMcTiller]

well pop in a legit disc with the donut and see if it will start the game for you. you may be in luck.

lol I don't have any at the moment. I'm getting one later today.

 

[WD_GASTER2]

good luck . I am going to bed. Hopefully you will have success.

 

[MrMcTiller]

Yeh just gut them and see if they got that retaining donut in them.
Salvage that one.

So, the disk spins up, then stops and it goes from reading, to open tray on the xbox. It doesn't even attempt to keep it spinning and read it so idk.

 

[DinohScene]

Retail disc?

Hm, I can recall something about a drive key mismatch if that happened.
Not to sure anymore tho.

 

[MrMcTiller]

Retail disc?

Hm, I can recall something about a drive key mismatch if that happened.
Not to sure anymore tho.

lol idk either.

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Retail disc?

Hm, I can recall something about a drive key mismatch if that happened.
Not to sure anymore tho.

I put a music cd into my pc drive while it was in the xbox and it let me listen to the music. lol

 

[DinohScene]

Iirc, music discs and video dvds still work but retail games refuse to boot.
RGHing it and retrieving the DVD key would be the only option if your drive has a mismatched key.

 

[godreborn]

the kamikaze method is insane. I've never done one, but I've read up on how to do one a while back. it's amazing that someone came up with it.