IGN Takes down plagiarised Dead Cells review [Update] author has been fired

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    IGN has taken down a review of the game Dead Cells, after it was found the video was almost word for word when compared to a video by Boomstickgamer, uploaded to YouTube over a week earlier. Boomstickgamer uploaded a video comparing the two videos and contacted IGN for an explanation. IGN pulled the video almost immediately but has yet to comment on the event outside of stating that the review has been taken down and that they are investigating.

    :arrow:Source - Boomstickgamers video
    :arrow:Source - IGN's statement [mod edit] Original link removed from IGN, archive.org copy
     
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  1. TotalInsanity4

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  2. kuwanger

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    Next thing you know they'll start offering the same shit games as IndieGala Bundles...
     
  3. FAST6191

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    While I have seen this plenty in the lists of things type websites I don't know that I have seen it in games before.

    Though I suppose if IGN is pulling from the same pool then it is to be expected.
     
  4. uiaad
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    Sadly it happens more often than you think. Always from smaller YouTubers who don't have that large a subscriber base to see the plagiarized video or just miss the connection.
     
  5. FAST6191

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    I guess that is one way to get around games taking dozens of hours to play and absomalutererly needing to have things out day 0.
     
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  6. uiaad
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    IGN have never shown much integrity when it comes what content they put out. You would think with a business as large as theirs they could find the time or the staff to get things done and get things done right, but ultimately they just don't care as long as the money keeps coming in.
     
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  8. gameboy

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    ign posted a review for DeadCell and a small youtube channel Boomstick Gaming accused it of plagiarism. Its a heavy accusation that garnered a lot of attention ending in Miucin losing his job.

    In most cases plagiarism has to be word for word. Now the creativity level of Filip leave much to be desired, but as a person that finish college level english myself, I know enough to see that although the sentence structure and the construction of the paragraph are heavily inspired by Boomstick Gaming, the use of verbiage is changed enough for it to not be considered plagiarism (Most of the other terms used were game mechanics verbiage).

    We see this a lot of times in music ('rap' music). By adding or subtracting a single note/word here or there, its enough to ''make it ones' own...''. There are a lot of people who like the sound of their own voice and its a shame Filip got fired over someone's butt-hurtness. AGAIN, the creativity leaves a lot to be desired but Filip DID do enough word switching to make it his own even if it was HEAVILY INSPIRED by ''DEADEYE'' of "Boomstick Gaming'' (which im sure if we did enough digging we would find he probably used a lot of the verbiage pushed by the developer used to promote their game, enough to accuse him of the same) Filip COULD HAVE just ended it with a single sentence of his own thoughts but again, ''heavily inspired'' suggest he was so captivated he couldn't think outside of the review he was inspired by...

    HERE'S THE REVIEW


    https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1026972177881427969



    p.s. im not a fan of ign or filip, but im going to assume Filip has the education levels required to be a writer at ign and he's gone through enough school to understand his work is NOT plagiarism. (as i have and know). I am a fan of YongYea but this video his is of a shitty elitist view, and i know his stuff is also HEAVILY INSPIRED from other stuff but he uses a bit more creativity.

    the problem here is not about plagiarism is it? its that he worked for the much hated ign and there were failures to cite sources because the thin line the writer walked on when it comes to plagairsm is very narrow wasnt it?
     
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  9. fatsquirrel

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    Its scary how sometimes people of the almighty and righteous internets destroy others lives over stupid shit like this.
     
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  10. KiiWii

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    It’s like 90% identical, little to no thought or effort went into making that, he didn’t deserve a sacking, but he definitely should have had it pulled or had it redone by someone else or something.
     
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  11. Clydefrosch

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    of course he deserved firing.
    he was hired to write original game reviews for the site.
    he didn't. he took someone elses. he might've done this more than once in the past (did anyone try and check?)
    thats not what he was hired and probably paid good money for.

    not saying that a writer stooping to this low might not also mean that the employer expects the impossible, writing a dozen reviews of a dozen games in a few days or something, but i'd say if you're hired to write and you instead copy, you're not doing what you were hired for
     
  12. gameboy

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    again the sentence structure and essay construction were borrowed but outside the 'key terms'(whih were game mechanics verbiage) he changed enough to make it his. Thats just how English goes though, people be butthurt enough to get people fired. Deadeye of Boomstick Gaming should apologize to Filip and not the other way around. I dont know the education level in English Deadeye has but Ive done enough know its not true plagiarism.
     
  13. DBlaze

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    People who think plagiarism shouldn't end in getting fired, it sure as hell is a reason to be fire.
    In this case it's about someone not doing what he was hired to do.

    @gameboy what you are describing is also plagiarism, just changing words doesn't make something not plagiarism.
    Clearly he did not change enough to make it his. He should've just done his job and make his own review.
     
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  14. gameboy

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    copy is a strong word. Most people do the same with reviews HEAVILY INSPIRED by someone else's review. Again this is not a ''not enough creativity'' thing, its a plagiarism accusation which going ''word for word'' outside the game verbiage it is not... LOL i laugh because it was very heavily inspired from but NOT plagiarism.
     
  15. KiiWii

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    Taking someone else’s work, and changing a few words is lazy, but getting insta-fired for it is a bit harsh. (Idk who he is and IDC that he got fired: just an outsiders opinion)

    End of the day: he should have written it himself from scratch.
     
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  16. Clydefrosch

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    plagiarism doesnt apply to just word for word copying.
    plagiarism is any kind of 'inspired' writing without pointing out the 'inspiration'
     
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  17. gameboy

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    AGAIN (although i myself write in non-proper english to give myself personality) I HAVE COMPLETED COLLEGE ENGLISH courses, Ive seen enough of this this to KNOW THIS IS NOT PLAGIARISM although the writing structure is borrowed. PLAGIARISM IS FIRE-ABLE OFFENSE as teachers and professors always preach before an assignment. This is more a creativity issue with Filip for this particular than outright stealing

    example: gbatemp writers do the same but change enough to make i not word-for-word.
     
  18. jpxdude

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    It's more than heavily inspired, especially when it comes to original work. You've said it yourself, OP.

    If the sentence structure and construction of paragraph were so easily identifiable, then that in itself is plagiarism. I don't think you can compare it to college level education, which requires citation and sources negating the aspect of plagiarism.

    In this instance, someones original/creative work was bastardized and used without permission.
     
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  19. gameboy

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    yes its VERY similar but outside the key-terms used by the developers themselves (metroidvania, rogue-like etcetc) enough was done to change it.
     
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  20. Disco

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    Well, about firing him... they most probably done it for example for the others if they planed to do the same.
    They pay their staff to write their own original reviews, and Filip clearly didn't do it...so he didn't do his job, a job he was paid for.