If you're on 2.0-2.3, don't update...

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  1. Natehaxx

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    man do you think i would spread this without talking to a dev ? Rob and Scris are both from the same team working on the same projects so shuv it its the same its nvhax
     
  2. Thirty3Three
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    DUDE. He's a dev. He LITERALLY JUST SAID "SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CASE" NOT TO UPDATE TO 3.0 if you're on 2.x.

    DON'T BE STUPID. He's OBVIOUSLY saying that for a reason.

    You're not a dev. If Scires said this, then listen to the guy!


    Jesus Christ.
     
  3. 8BitWonder

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    We understand it's nvhax and that it will work on both 2.X and 3.0. I was on the discord looking at it too. But Scires pointed out that even though it will work on 3.0, people should still refrain from updating.
     
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    He also literally said, "in this case, specifically, stay on 2.x". There's obviously a reason.

    Also, just because they're a "team", doesn't mean they know the same shit. For example, Scires could've found something out incredibly recently for 2.x, and hadn't told the other(s) yet.

    Either way, the man said don't update if you're on 2.x. He wouldn't say that unless there were reason to. If he were just playing the "lower firmware are always better" card, he'd not had added that last statement that said SPECIFICALLY, in this case, to stay on 2.x. HEAVILY hinting that there is something on 2.x which was blocked in 3.0

    Just elaborating on what you said here:)
     
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    I think everyone knows this by now. It's already known that some exploits were patched in 3.0. Exactly what implications this has for homebrew, we don't know yet, but we do know at the very least that it will take longer for 3.0 to get hacked.
    But each individual user has to decide what's more important to them. Playing games now, or being stuck unable to play new games while they wait for the inevitable CFW release.

    I don't mind buying games, I got the Switch expecting it to take a long time for warez loading to be possible, so I don't mind if it takes a long time for CFW to be made for newer firmwares while people who stayed behind get to enjoy their ROMs. Games are more important.
    My view on buying new consoles at launch is that it gives me the chance to be among the first to play a new game, and I wouldn't give that up for anything. If I can't even play new games then I may as well wait for a price drop before buying. But everyone will have their own view on that.

    Anyway, OP seems like he's forgetting about TX's offering. It's certainly not for everyone, as not everyone is willing to void their warranty just for piracy. But there's also not really any need to worry about updates, since you'll always have the modchip option if piracy is that important to you that you would forgo being able to play new games for possibly a couple of years, depending on whether the devs plan to release their work, and what that release ends up looking like. If piracy is really that important to people then they would probably also be willing to pay someone to install a modchip for them.
    To my knowledge all of the devs are anti-piracy and so they probably wouldn't release anything that could contribute to piracy, meaning that anyone waiting might be waiting a long time until another dev comes around that doesn't give a shit. TX's offering might be the only way to pirate Switch games for a long time to come. That's something to keep in mind for everyone that is staying behind.
     
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    Not forgetting, I said "softmod" in the op;)
     
  7. Rauliki

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    You can't. Buy used (check the ganes firmware thread)
     
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    In an effort to clear the air and promote a less toxic environment, here comes the current state of affairs regarding Switch hacks:

    - Firmware 1.0.0:
    -> Contains critical system flaws that allow code execution up to the TrustZone level;
    -> Most of what was showcased during 34c3 originally targeted this firmware version;
    -> Allows for a full blown emuNAND/CFW setup.

    - Firmware 2.0.0-2.3.0:
    -> Contains system flaws that allow code execution up to the kernel level;
    -> Can be exploited to run homebrew using private methods (e.g.: nvhax).

    - Firmware 3.0.0:
    -> Contains system flaws that allow code execution on the userland level;
    -> Can be exploited to run homebrew using private methods (e.g.: nvhax);
    -> Can be exploited to run homebrew using public methods (e.g.: rohan).

    - Firmware 3.0.1-4.1.0:
    -> Contains system flaws that allow code execution on the userland level;
    -> Can be exploited to run homebrew using private methods (e.g.: nvhax).

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    so yeah if you on 2.0-2.3 if you been waiting this long aleady why not wait and not update.
     
  9. isoboy

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    No. 3.0.0 will get everything. OP doesn't have a clue.
     
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    You need some help bro, negative much.
     
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    Hey! Fucktard, you're wrong. Or being sarcastic, in which case you're not a fucktard. :)
     
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    Because dev said SPECIFICALLY NOT TO. Seriously. People here not read?!
     
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    Except, it's not all doom and gloom if you're on 4.1.0, you still can use homebrew, so really. Unless you want kernel access and pirate games...yeah, lower is better. At least those on 4.1.0 can actually have homebrew, that's what I wanted.
     
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    yeah I was agreeing with you. You shouldnt update if you already been waiting
     
  17. Thirty3Three
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    Oh okay
    Sorry about that. Full disclosure. I just read the ending haha

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    I remember that daedalus for the psp needed more than just "userland" to work well on the psp so it might even be better to have it on full cfw even for homebrew
     
  18. the_randomizer

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    Well, the major hurdle is lack of hardware acceleration, we don't know what we need yet.
     
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    While yes this is correct, homebrew for < 3.0 will not happen til nvhax is patched on whatever firmware it does get patched on. It could be the next it could be 2 years from now lol. So the highest bet if they actually release something would be TX which would open piracy anyways.
     
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    Either way, those on 4.1.0 aren't totally SOL.
     
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