I hate to say this I don't think desume is actually bad

Discussion in 'NDS - Emulation and Homebrew' started by tiamat999, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. tiamat999
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    I think the real problem is zeromus is lazy and doesn't care someone that has actual passion needs to pick it up. Being good at coding is no excuse to be lazy and do the bare minimum
     


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    proflayton123 悲しみ

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    No$gba and the new "MelonDS" are viable options ¿


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    my dad works for nintendo.
    am i the only one who thought it was great?
    before it i had used no cash, from no cash to desmume it was a huge step..
    not saying that no cash is bad, but it was a mainly gba emulator..

    ok, desmume didn't had wifi and people really throw a rock at it because of that reason, but before i had a ds, desmume was really nifty..
    it also got some cool functions like GBA linking and simulates the cards inserted
     
  4. tiamat999
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    It is good it's just the zeromus is lazy and didn't seem to have passion for it
     
  5. Meteor7

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    I only ever needed to use it for its memory viewer for making codes, so in that sense, it worked perfectly well for me. I also only ever used it on a ruddy old laptop, so I never expected more than the 5fps I got.
     
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    Me too! :yaynds: Just use Memory Viewer for seeing the address and value and dump the address for making pointer codes. Next, use RAM search for finding real codes depend on games itself! Test it until the address was changed random or nothing happen (stay on old one). Just one problem is... NO DEBUGGER! Use No$gba for hacking address to make ASM codes! ;)
     
  7. StarTrekVoyager

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    No. DeSmuME _is bullshit. It doesn't run full speed on my PC, which is still an Broadwell i3 laptop. Dolphin runs faster than it. Also its accuracy is bullshit. Tell @skawo, he'll say that he had to put a hacky ASM code in his hack to acknowledge DeSmuME's inaccurate behavior. There are no excuses, zeromus isn't lazy, he has blocked any new feature on PURPOSE.
     
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    Desmume is pretty good IMO. Maybe MelonDS is better, but before that was made, Desmume was #1, and I think it deserves credit for that.
    What hack would that be?
     
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    Newer Super Mario Bros. DS, a hack he's working on.
     
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    I've used DeSmuMe on these specs and it works very fine.

    Intel Core i7 7th Gen Processor 4770K
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    8 GB DDR4 RAM
     
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    Yeah, but these specs should be overkill. A DS emulator shouldn't run slower than a Wii emulator, that's not normal.
     
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    As for why that happens, I don't know. But emulating consoles takes way more processing power and RAM than the console's oringinal power.
     
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    I know that, but I can emulate most of Gamecube games (and don't tell me ARM is harder to emulate than PPC lol) at 60fps, and yet resource-light games like NSMB and MKDS never go above 50fps.
     
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    Exactly, and Dolphin is extremely well made and optimized.
     
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    Oh, and DraStic emulated within your average Android emulator is faster than DeSmuME lol.
     
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    But DraStic is a different emulator though. We're talking about DeSmuME.
     
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    I think DeSmuME is pretty good, it can also interact with GBA games which is useful for Pokemon Games. The main thing its lacking that would be nice is WiFi emulation.

    To anyone calling the author lazy, why not give up your own free time and do better? be grateful for what you have got for free, I know it's beyond anything I could code.
     
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    The devlopper has intentionnaly sabotaged the work of other people in his team, including StapleButter. He prevented the inclusion of higher internal resolutions until a random Chinese guy published X432R and overshadowed the main emu, so he let his team implement it finally. A lot of extra features does mean nothing if they are implemented on top of a crappy, unoptimized code mess.
     
  19. skawo

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    Can confirm. DeSmuMe's 3D is not accurate enough, and made stuff shake when players moved.

    It didn't on a real DS.
    ...and virtually any other emulator I checked. Nocash, Medusa, Melon, WiiU's hachihachi, you name it.

    So, we (the hack devteam) asked around and StapleButter provided a way to find out whether the game is running on DeSmuMe or not, which we can use to correct the shake.
    It involves disabling some of the DS memory protection temporaily, and stuff. Very fun indeed.

    When we asked the DeSmuME dev about it, his only concern wasn't fixing the 3D...
    instead, that we shouldn't include the hacky workaround fix, because ...new games can come out and detect DeSmuME that way.

    Yes. New DS games in 2 0 1 7.
     
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    Make DeSmuME great again.