I bought a Cyclowiz and Tri-wing.

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Feb 18, 2007
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    I don't see what's wrong with your purchase...unless buying the Cyclowiz in the first place was the wrong step...
     
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    The only thing I'm nervous about is the fact that I haven't really soldered before.
     
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    I think that's your problem then, not your puchase. Get your tools now and practice or you'll end up like this poor sucker. If you have never soldered a chip before, you must practice, those points on the Wii are about the the size of a tip of a ballpoint pen. Do you really think you can get those right the first time?

    Dig through your drawer, find some electronic you no longer use, solder points together just for practice. This practice will save you $250...seriously.

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    Trust me, I plan on practicing. I saw that Wire video in one of the sticky topics and I've learned the basics.
     
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    Also, I ordered the $5 wire kit just in case. Should I use that instead of quick solder?
     
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    Solderless installation is mad hard to remove. Wired installation is recommended if you planning on changing out the modchip later.

    Edit: Sorry I meant to say Quick Solder

    Edit2: Its also been known that the CycloWiz isn't of top quality manufacturing so the quick solder points on the chip are a little misaligned.
     
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    So I'm guessing that's a yes on the wires?
     
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    Yeah, do a wired install. A guy posted pics on MaxConsole with his placement of the chip and wires for a wired install of Cyclowiz. The site's erroring out for me right now, otherwise I'd post a link.
     
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    I'm getting kinda scared now. D:


    I think I'm going to track down a friend that does a lot of soldering.


    Also, no one answered me. Will that screwdriver work?
     
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    Soldering is easy with a little practice but . . .

    given the fact that you get excitable over a screwdriver leave it to someone else.

    Yes the tri-wing screwdriver is what you want.

    Yes use a wired install for ease of removal and easier install for rookies (IMHO).
     
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    Okay, now say I successfully solder the wires to my board, but I screw up on my Cyclowiz. Will my Wii be just fine if I snip the wires?
     
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    yep. should be.
     
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    Now, as long as I have some desoldering braid, and I don't hold the iron on the joint too long, I should be fine, correct?
     
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    Just keep in mind that "too long" is about 3 seconds. If your joint doesn't get hot enough to melt solder by then you're just going to damage something by holding any iron there longer (even 15watt).

    Keep the tip of your iron tinned. A well tinned iron is a working iron. An oxidized iron is one that melts plastic and not solder.
     
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    My iron is 30 watt. T_T
     
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    I'm a soldiering noob, but this is how I did it:

    I put tin on the wires, then held the wires to the point and melted the tin again, so it stuck to the point. I did this because I heard about how easy it is to lift the points. Some people say that this method is not recomended, because it might not make good enough contact, but it works perfectly on my Wii.
     
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    Actually, that method is not so bad. In another thread I started ("Rate my soldering skillz") someone posted this:

    http://www.teamnovak.com/tech_info/how_to/solder/index.html

    I have started to use the wire/solder/iron placement as suggest in this video and find it to be considerably easier and the joints come out cleaner. Pay careful attention to how they tin the wires:

    [​IMG]

    That positioning made tinning the wires so much easier than touching a tinned iron to the wire like I had been doing. It does require three hands though. I suggest getting this:
    RadioShack link

    You'll see that in that site I linked to they actually recommend attaching the wire to the desired joint using the method you mention:
    [​IMG]

    Of course, you will want to tin the point first to make a solid joint.

    I have a 30w iron too. I'm not concerned about melting my Wii, as I have a very small point on my iron and I am getting very fast, usually the iron has less than 1/2 second contact with the board at a time.
     

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