I am filing a legal suit against every game maker

[WeaponXxX]

FYI, It's Haiti not Africa
My bad I was just quoting the source

Should the gaming community really NOT acknowledge Africa as a country?

Whoops my bad...lol blame that one on multi tasking

QUOTE(Prophet @ Aug 1 2007, 08:40 PM)

Wow, you just went from misinformed to utterly ignorant. In the future when you find yourself quoting a comedian in order to make a point, I suggest you simply unplug the computer.

I quoted a comedian for one reason and one reason alone...your whole post was a fucking JOKE...the idea of not accepting help from a "white man" is ludicrous...OMG there is a plague in Haiti...should we send Chris to save the day? Um...nah I am sure somebody over there can step up to the plate...what if that same logic happened in Spain, or Racoon City...I don't even want to get into if you use that logic in the real world especially with recent events. Your the racist...plain an simple. Listen if YOU don't want to be saved by Chris then you can wear your "KILL ALL THE WHITE MEN" T-shirt and hopefully Chris gets the message and leaves you alone but I am sure there are plenty of virtual characters in the game that will appreciate Chris's support. Oh fuck I was about to get eaten by a zombie and you saved the day...shit can I hang out with you? My guess based on previous experience is it will be a 14 year old girl. Unfortunately either way if Chris says yes or no I am sure Prophet will be unhappy with Redfield's decision. It's a game...a geographical game where the world is in trouble and our hero who happens to be white is running around saving the day...there is nothing more to the story...they don't need to stop and handle the situation politically correctly. I would think if fiction became reality...zombies were among us...it would be a run and gun situation. Not, "excuse me Mr. Zombie sir I terrible hate to bother you but I am afraid I am going to shoot you. You see kind sir it has nothing to do with the colour of your skin but rather the fact that your eating my partners brain." Fires bullet...meets next zombie..."excuse me Mr. Zombie sir I terrible hate to bother you but I am afraid I am going to shoot you. You see kind sir it has nothing to do with the colour of your skin but rather the fact that your eating my partners brain." Fires bullet...meets next zombie...repeat X30


A bit off topic but I'd really like to be a little more educated...has any other race or nationality that has been a victim of slavery blamed one whole colour? Some of you brought up Jews VS Nazis...do the jews resent ALL white people...or just Germans? I'm not going to go and relist all the people who were victims of slavery but can someone explain to me why the Persians are responsible for enslaving the Greeks and they are listed as just Persians...no skin colour just their origins...meanwhile the whole WHITE race is somehow responsible for enslaving Africa?

 

[Prophet]

This is why I try to avoid these e-debates. They always seem to revolve around someone randomly hitting keys, until they finally receive the ego stroking they so desperately need.

WeaponX, I yield. I'm obviously the one blinded by racism.

 

[Da Foxx]

(Source)

Over on the Village Voice blog post, one commenter approached the issue from another direction, writing, "Many of these games, including [Resident Evil 5], are being made in ethnically homogenous Japan, where concepts of race are hugely different from those in America. On some level, I think Japanese developers simply don't understand how potentially flammable these kinds of scenarios could become, let alone some of the even more blatant stereotyping often found in Japanese games (think Barrett's penchant for Ebonics in [Final Fantasy 7], just for starters.)"

I'm just quoting from the article. I find this a very good point. I mean this game is developed by a Japanese company.

 

[alkasetz]

i think the racism angle is a little redundant in this case.

I mean, where was this discussion when I was playing RE4, using Leon to kill massive amounts of Spanish infected?

The reason why they used Chris is because he was a principal character in the RE canon, not because he was white. If there was a militia in haiti that were fighting off the infected masses, wouldn't they benefit from the experience from someone who had been fighting something similarly sinister?

Very little of the game has been revealed, so let's shine a little perspective on this...

 

[BoneMonkey]

Mr POPO ZOMBIES FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[imyourxpan]

um...you can do that in basically any game that has humans in it. i don't see why it would be considered racism in the new 5th game of resident evil. i mean yes i can, but there is no such thing as a white man(if you consider nationality/ethnicity). lets say the game was featured in france. are we going to say they are racist towards the french? idk, unless there was significant evidence of racism i would be on your side. i am totally against racism and similar ideas. unless they show a KKK stick on chris in the new game, i don't see a mass amount of racism (jeez, they are freaking attacking and trying to kill him! i don't think chris is thinking, oh he is dark skinned, kill him. i mean c'mon seriously).

 

[imyourxpan]

i think the racism angle is a little redundant in this case.

I mean, where was this discussion when I was playing RE4, using Leon to kill massive amounts of Spanish infected?

The reason why they used Chris is because he was a principal character in the RE canon, not because he was white. If there was a militia in haiti that were fighting off the infected masses, wouldn't they benefit from the experience from someone who had been fighting something similarly sinister?

Very little of the game has been revealed, so let's shine a little perspective on this...

exactly, it just happened to be the location and what, do you think they are going to put a ton of light skinned people in the area just to ease the tension of racism? the location is a little village and it's obvious that it isn't near a big city or whatnot. everyone there are natives, who are *ding* spanish. exactly the same with RE5.

 

[FAST6191]

From you perspective it may look stupid and you do make a good point. But if you were to look at the issue from the perspective of black people you would know what these people have gone through when the white man enslaved them. (I think everyone knows their history here so I don't have to go any further..) I think that this the reason why the women who wrote the article might be upset about the game. I'm not black so I can't say anything for them. But this the only logical reason to why she would make a big deal about it.

I do not know about you but having grown up in England I flinch every time a person of Scandinavian or Italian descent wanders by, I mean they might try and pillage/take over the country.
"But that was several hundred/thousand years ago": to add on to the comment of Nazism (or perceived Nazism) I find it odd that there is little recourse taken against those who would further that view yet someone who dismisses (perhaps the wrong word) slavery as a past event (and it did happen quite some time ago, I am pretty sure it is outside living memory for the most part unlike Nazism) would likely be ridiculed or similar (if it matters most Germans I have met aside from some of those in the sticks (which in my experience is the same the world over), be they travelling or in Germany have been sound people). Permit me an anecdote if you will, driving back from Amsterdam (though Belgium and France) the roads and the other users were good most of the way until we hit France, then the morons who were cruising in the middle lane (despite inside being free to the horizon/limit of vision) all had GB plates.

Still political correctness is something I do my best to avoid, the debate seems to have runs its course though so I will state my opinion and leave: intent is my problem, make a game where the *majority of) "victims" are of a certain skin pigmentation: whatever. Make a game where the "victims" are of a certain skin pigmentation for the sole purpose of victimising those of said pigmentation and then you are a moron.

Basically some people should try going by intent not perception. I could throw some anecdotes but then I run the risk of diminishing my point.

 

[Issac]

For you who were offended that the main character is white, while the whole nation is black....
He's coming from raccoon city (or however it is spelled) and is there on a mission from the zombie slaughtering company to, gosh, slaughter zombies!
maybe there isn't a zombie slaughtering company in haiti... so they "cannot step up and save the day", they call for help from raccoon city!

 

[Retal]

Truth is, i know a bunch of students that went to america for one year or a half and most, if not all, got accused by at least 1 or 2 people in their college of being nazis without having even done a little damn thing.

Although America is collectively retarded, I doubt that they were really accused of being Nazis. I don't doubt that they were called Nazis, but I expect that that was just for lack of a better insult. Kids figure that if you want to offend a German, calling them a Nazi should hit the spot, that's all.

 

[madmk]

People actually saying there is a difference between black and white people is a racist statement to make. There should be no difference.

One word sums this up: Pathetic.

 

[Wolfsclaw]

Mr POPO ZOMBIES FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!

rofl i was thinking the same when i read that quote

 

[deathfisaro]

Wait, so when multiracial group of zombies attack you (think of it as 1 male and 1 female pair from each of every single country), which ones can you shoot and which ones not? (OMG YOU SHOT A ZOMBIE FROM MY COUNTRY! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR)

What people don't see is that white person shooting white zombies IS racist, that means the developer didn't bother with a black person's texture.

In Resident Evil 5, it's somewhat saying "look we saved next gen detailed textures for you people"
And the game is not even out yet, who knows what really happens?
I think their trailer screams of marketting strategy, people who want white guy shooting black zombies game, or who wants to prove it's NOT a white guy shooting black zombies game will both buy the game, no?

 

[[M]artin]

If only there was a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton zombie Boss Battle in the game.

For the love of God, people, learn something from this guy and lighten the fuck uppp...

 

[Spikey]

artin @ Aug 2 2007, 12:01 PM)]

If only there was a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton zombie Boss Battle in the game.

For the love of God, people, learn something from this guy and lighten the fuck uppp...

 

[mflo]

Why not have everyone in the game wear blood-splattered bunny costumes. That way you can't tell whose black and whose white. We can also have all the females in playboy costumes. Ada Wong ftw.

 

[iTech]

Are we all forgetting that the ones making this game are JAPANESE!!! Not WHITE NOR BLACK!

According to a popular stereotype, the general consensus in Japan is that black people are savages.
I heard this from many people - they claim the majority of Japanese people are completely oblivious to racism issues towards black people and regard them as an inferior race.

However, it's just a stereotype and therefore may not be entirely true.

 

[iTech]

I might add that in The Netherlands and Belgium, people *are* completely oblivious towards racism against black people.
One example is Black Pete, the slave of a rich white Catholic man who is a Santaclaus Analogue, which sends a clear message toward schildren that black people are the White Man's slave - very wrong especially coming from countries that had slavecolonies in Africa like Belgium and The Netherlands.

Also, Dutch television has been known to show old cartoons which were banned due to racism in the US, such as Tom & Jerry episodes where the housekeeper is stereotypically black.

 

[Gamesphere]

That can't be. I mean it doesn't make sense as the Hip-Hop culture is growing heavily in Japan. When I head down to Jamaica for Clash Reggae music battles, Do you know how many Japanese I see? Out of a crowd of 10,000 roughly 3,000 are asian. Out of ten I asked, 6 said they were Japanese. I don't have time to calculate but those are still huge numbers to be hanging out with "Savages" listening to "Savage Music". Im sorry but I believe that stereotype is wrong.

 

[jalaneme]

i think there is a very good reason why they have used hati for the next resident evil location, hati has a strong history of voodo magic like bringing the dead back to life aka like a zombie like state. they celebrate a few festivals aswell. i'm sure wiki would bring up a lot of information about this.
http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti/voodoo/mars-zombi.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodoun

being a young back woman myself, i am not offended about it in any way i'm more intrigued how well they can portray the black skin and hair, it's spot on!