Tutorial How to perform a System Transfer without losing non-legitimate titles

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Hi all, wow - long time lurker to these forums (over 10 years), but never bothered registering an account. I've always been able to search and find the info I need. Well, it's about time I registered an account, lol, was always just a matter of time.

Anyway, so I just happened to buy a replacement N3DSXL (my current N3DSXL is working fine, just wanted to switch it up and gift my current one to a family member this Christmas). Unfortunately it shipped out just a tad bit late, and instead of getting it yesterday, I'll be getting it tomorrow. GREAT TIMING, what with the new firmware drop out of nowhere, lmao. I don't feel like dealing with seedminer again, and I'm assuming my replacement will ship with a Soundhax capable firmware (it's an unopened official ninty refurb unit). I'm also just very slightly concerned that I haven't yet seen anyone confirm that seedminer works on the new firmware (although I really don't see why it wouldn't, tbh).

So anyway, before I even start anything can I first install B9S on the new unit? And after that (I don't think I'd even need to install Luma on the new console yet), only then update the system firmware on both units? (although I already updated my current N3DSXL to Luma 10.2.1 and then FW 11.14 with no problems at all). Or does the new unit need to be stock FW to do PC transfer? I haven't done a transfer in forever, if ever. But step #3 also has the extra note that if the system already has B9S installed, don't worry about the step, which makes me think I can indeed CFW the new console before initiating transfer.

Assuming I can go with my plan outlined above, after the PC transfer is done, and as mentioned earlier in this thread, I would then swap the SD card (in lieu of steps 5-8, and I already have faketik 1.1.2 which was just released on my current SD card), run the app to generate the tickets, etc.

And then of course I'm planning to run Cthulhu to unwrap everything, then restore my home menu layout which I also have saved. And I'm also guessing the SD card swap will carry over Luma3DS at that point, but I'll also want to run the updater again to install it to CTRNAND?

Thanks in advance! Sorry, this post turned out much longer than I expected, haha. As you can probably tell, I like to be very thorough.


Edit: Went ahead with the system transfer with no major problems at all. There were tiny trivial hiccup that were easily resolved. Figured I'd write about it in case anyone else ends up in a similar situation in the near future.

As suspected, my replacement refurb console was vulnerable to Soundhax (it was on 11.0.0-33U). It took all but seconds to B9S it. After installing B9S, I proceeded to install Luma3DS anyway, out of an abundance of caution, so I could also use Godmode9 to pull the NAND images. Only then did I update the system firmware to 11.14 and continue.

From here, I proceeded to do the PC-based system transfer procedure and SD card swap at the appropriate time. Afterwards, I ran Faketik and everything was restored as expected. Except for DS games installed via home menu forwarder, although this was somewhat expected since I didn't expect it to be able to recover those by title ID's. Luckily I had all of the forwarder CIA's I created still saved, so it was just a matter of reinstalling them all. Since all the save data was stored on the SD card via twlm, all my saves were still there. One more note is that Cthulhu can't batch unwrap these forwarded titles. But restoring the home menu layout did work as expected (did it both before and after reinstalling all of my forwarded titles).

So anyway, thanks for the original writeup, OP!
 
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Hi all, wow - long time lurker to these forums (over 10 years), but never bothered registering an account. I've always been able to search and find the info I need. Well, it's about time I registered an account, lol, was always just a matter of time.

Anyway, so I just happened to buy a replacement N3DSXL (my current N3DSXL is working fine, just wanted to switch it up and gift my current one to a family member this Christmas). Unfortunately it shipped out just a tad bit late, and instead of getting it yesterday, I'll be getting it tomorrow. GREAT TIMING, what with the new firmware drop out of nowhere, lmao. I don't feel like dealing with seedminer again, and I'm assuming my replacement will ship with a Soundhax capable firmware (it's an unopened official ninty refurb unit). I'm also just very slightly concerned that I haven't yet seen anyone confirm that seedminer works on the new firmware (although I really don't see why it wouldn't, tbh).

So anyway, before I even start anything can I first install B9S on the new unit? And after that (I don't think I'd even need to install Luma on the new console yet), only then update the system firmware on both units? (although I already updated my current N3DSXL to Luma 10.2.1 and then FW 11.14 with no problems at all). Or does the new unit need to be stock FW to do PC transfer? I haven't done a transfer in forever, if ever. But step #3 also has the extra note that if the system already has B9S installed, don't worry about the step, which makes me think I can indeed CFW the new console before initiating transfer.

Assuming I can go with my plan outlined above, after the PC transfer is done, and as mentioned earlier in this thread, I would then swap the SD card (in lieu of steps 5-8, and I already have faketik 1.1.2 which was just released on my current SD card), run the app to generate the tickets, etc.

And then of course I'm planning to run Cthulhu to unwrap everything, then restore my home menu layout which I also have saved. And I'm also guessing the SD card swap will carry over Luma3DS at that point, but I'll also want to run the updater again to install it to CTRNAND?

Thanks in advance! Sorry, this post turned out much longer than I expected, haha. As you can probably tell, I like to be very thorough.


Edit: Went ahead with the system transfer with no major problems at all. There were tiny trivial hiccup that were easily resolved. Figured I'd write about it in case anyone else ends up in a similar situation in the near future.

As suspected, my replacement refurb console was vulnerable to Soundhax (it was on 11.0.0-33U). It took all but seconds to B9S it. After installing B9S, I proceeded to install Luma3DS anyway, out of an abundance of caution, so I could also use Godmode9 to pull the NAND images. Only then did I update the system firmware to 11.14 and continue.

From here, I proceeded to do the PC-based system transfer procedure and SD card swap at the appropriate time. Afterwards, I ran Faketik and everything was restored as expected. Except for DS games installed via home menu forwarder, although this was somewhat expected since I didn't expect it to be able to recover those by title ID's. Luckily I had all of the forwarder CIA's I created still saved, so it was just a matter of reinstalling them all. Since all the save data was stored on the SD card via twlm, all my saves were still there. One more note is that Cthulhu can't batch unwrap these forwarded titles. But restoring the home menu layout did work as expected (did it both before and after reinstalling all of my forwarded titles).

So anyway, thanks for the original writeup, OP!
Glad to hear everything worked out in the end.
Yeah, non-legitimate DSiWare (essentially what the forwarders are) isn't covered in this guide. I'll have to update the guide with that at some point, or maybe I could just link to TurdPooCharger's reply about it.
And uh, thanks for reminding me to change the Luma version in the OP to the latest one :rofl:
 
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Good evening! Man, I really hope that I don’t get bashed for my noobishness lol. I have a Modded New 3ds XL that I have had for about a year. I really haven’t done much with it aside from adding some rom hacks here or there (mainly because I broke the back of it while trying to take the SD card out once and after having it replaced, I stayed far away from opening it again). Because I only had a 64gb SD card that is now full, I knew I wanted a larger card so I ended up getting a 256gb for Christmas (overkill I know but this is what my parents got me). I know I will have to convert the new SD card to FAT32 before I do anything to it and I’m fully prepared to do just that. The other wrench I threw in was the fact that I wanted a new 2DS xl for the SD card slot access convenience. I finally found one and when I got it, it was already modded as well. My main dilemma now is how to transfer the majority of my original SD card (main reason is because there are several programs on it I wish to keep) and some of the games from the second SD card onto the brand new SD card and putting that new SD card onto my New 2DS xl? I have looked up several guides but I’m so clueless on all of the phrases and abbreviations and I worry that I will accidentally brick something if I just pick a guide and it not actually be the right one for what I’m wanting. Any advice or help provided would be highly appreciated!!! Thank you very much!!
 

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Good evening! Man, I really hope that I don’t get bashed for my noobishness lol. I have a Modded New 3ds XL that I have had for about a year. I really haven’t done much with it aside from adding some rom hacks here or there (mainly because I broke the back of it while trying to take the SD card out once and after having it replaced, I stayed far away from opening it again). Because I only had a 64gb SD card that is now full, I knew I wanted a larger card so I ended up getting a 256gb for Christmas (overkill I know but this is what my parents got me). I know I will have to convert the new SD card to FAT32 before I do anything to it and I’m fully prepared to do just that. The other wrench I threw in was the fact that I wanted a new 2DS xl for the SD card slot access convenience. I finally found one and when I got it, it was already modded as well. My main dilemma now is how to transfer the majority of my original SD card (main reason is because there are several programs on it I wish to keep) and some of the games from the second SD card onto the brand new SD card and putting that new SD card onto my New 2DS xl? I have looked up several guides but I’m so clueless on all of the phrases and abbreviations and I worry that I will accidentally brick something if I just pick a guide and it not actually be the right one for what I’m wanting. Any advice or help provided would be highly appreciated!!! Thank you very much!!
Format your new SD Card to FAT32 as you said, then put the new SD Card into your 2DS. After that, simply follow the instructions in the OP.
You won't be able to keep any of the applications already installed on the 2DS's old SD Card, and if there is a way, we're not helping you with it. It's not possible to mix-and-match System Transfers like that.
 

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Is it possible to complete the PC system transfer if both 3DS systems have CFW? I'm currently doing the system transfer and I'm stuck at the step that says I should delete all of the info from the target system's SD card.
 

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Is it possible to complete the PC system transfer if both 3DS systems have CFW? I'm currently doing the system transfer and I'm stuck at the step that says I should delete all of the info from the target system's SD card.
Yes, it's possible. Delete all the data from the target's SD Card as you're told and move the source system's data to the target system. (or better yet, simply swap the cards and negate this step entirely.)
 

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Yes, it's possible. Delete all the data from the target's SD Card as you're told and move the source system's data to the target system. (or better yet, simply swap the cards and negate this step entirely.)

Thanks for the reply! I got scared and decided to stop here because I don't want to take any risks. I'll do it ASAP and edit this post to let you know how it went.

EDIT: I did the system transfer and followed the other instructions, everything worked fine! All of my games and saves have transferred over without any issues. Thanks!
 
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What state does this leave the source device in? Assuming I'm going to continue using the same SD card in it.

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What state does this leave the source device in? Assuming I'm going to continue using the same SD card in it.

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When a system transfer is done, the source device is always formatted, regardless of whether it has CFW or not.
 
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What state does this leave the source device in? Assuming I'm going to continue using the same SD card in it.
When a system transfer is done, the source device is always formatted, regardless of whether it has CFW or not.
I should add, just to be clear, that a system format does not remove CFW.
 

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I know this is a touchy subject, but I figured it it might be better to ask in this thread than make a new one since it's related to the OP subject and what I need to know/do.

When doing a system transfer like this and in relation to CFW stuff in general does the local friend seed also transfer or does that always stay on the system itself? I'm very aware it's my fault my original device was banned and I got around it, but I cannot find ANYTHING due to google algorithm thinking Friend Seed means Friend Codes as well as general lack of info.
 
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I know this is a touchy subject, but I figured it it might be better to ask in this thread than make a new one since it's related to the OP subject and what I need to know/do.

When doing a system transfer like this and in relation to CFW stuff in general does the local friend seed also transfer or does that always stay on the system itself? I'm very aware it's my fault my original device was banned and I got around it, but I cannot find ANYTHING due to google algorithm thinking Friend Seed means Friend Codes as well as general lack of info.

I don't think It transfers to the new system.. the old system will format after transfer and It'll need a different friend code seed to go online, as Nintendo can detect a friend code seed being used in multiple systems (not that they care much about it right now lmao)
 

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do i need to have a second empty sd card or can i just use the old one for the new device? does the system transfer only format the 3ds or does it format the sd card too?
 

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do i need to have a second empty sd card or can i just use the old one for the new device? does the system transfer only format the 3ds or does it format the sd card too?
No, you do not need a second empty SD card and System Transfer does not format the card.

These are questions that have been answered before and I might suggest you spend some more time reading if you have doubts.
 
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