Hacking How to install gateway on N3ds xl 9.2?

[Aymericard]

You're a genius dude, the original problem was me not wanting to unscrew the back plate all the time cause I don't hang out with a screwdriver all the time, and you come up with :
"You never need to unscrew the back plate, just remove the screws on the backplate."
Do you have any other logical fallacies like this ?

 

[astronautlevel]

Drag&drop .3ds directly onto a microSD and play, you must admit, is pretty convenient compared to CFW installation, FBi injection and CIA installation that takes forever.

And besides, all these exploits that allowed 3DS piracy were known for years and out of reach for the average user. If Gateway had never came along and discovered them independently (no doubt with help from the 3DS vulnerabilities page at 3Dbrew wiki) we would all be still paying for our games and our best homebrew app would be a gameboy emulator right now.

Everyone will call me a fan boy or whatever, i don't care. I am just giving credit where credit is due, they really did jump started our fabulous scene

The two waves of console bricking was still a dick move thought, regardless!

True, I never discredited what Gateway did for the scene at the beginning. Now though, there's not a reason to buy one

FBI injection is actually really easy now thanks to tools like Universal Inject Generator, though I can understand not wanting to wait for CIAs to install. Personally, I've always preferred having games on my home screen rather than on a separate launcher though

I guess the question is if you want to pay 100 dollars for kind of faster installation.

You're a genius dude, the original problem was me not wanting to unscrew the back plate all the time cause I don't hang out with a screwdriver all the time, and you come up with :
"You never need to unscrew the back plate, just remove the screws on the backplate."
Do you have any other logical fallacies like this ?

The n3ds backplate clicks into place. If your problem is having to always unscrew it, just take the screws out. It doesn't affect it at all.

 

[Aymericard]

The n3ds backplate clicks into place. If your problem is having to always unscrew it, just take the screws out. It doesn't affect it at all.

In the meantime you totally ignored my second argument, which is the fact you have to install the games and it takes 15minutes and you need double the size of the CIA free on your microSD. And sure the backplate clicks but I don't feel comfortable hearing it squeak because it's unscrewed.

Well anyway these problems I state are shallow I admit, but they still need to be issued. FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS.

 

[astronautlevel]

In the meantime you totally ignored my second argument, which is the fact you have to install the games and it takes 15minutes and you need double the size of the CIA free on your microSD. And sure the backplate clicks but I don't feel comfortable hearing it squeak because it's unscrewed.

Well anyway these problems I state are shallow I admit, but they still need to be issued. FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS.

I addressed your problem with the 15 minutes in my reply to @Jao Chu
Also, you can use SocketPunch with FBI and you won't need double the space.

 

[Aymericard]

I addressed your problem with the 15 minutes in my reply to @Jao Chu
Also, you can use SocketPunch with FBI and you won't need double the space.

Using SocketPunch goes back to the slow wireless transfer though.
What I'm getting at is both GW and CFW have their advantages and disadvantages, and you can't deny that.

 

[astronautlevel]

Using SocketPunch goes back to the slow wireless transfer though.
What I'm getting at is both GW and CFW have their advantages and disadvantages, and you can't deny that.

Then the solution is to directly copy files until you don't have enough space for 2x the CIA, then just do the network install.

True, but the fact that you don't need to spend 100 dollars to support devs who intentionally bricked people's devices is a nice benefit of CFW

 

[Margen67]

Then the solution is to directly copy files until you don't have enough space for 2x the CIA, then just do the network install.

True, but the fact that you don't need to spend 100 dollars to support devs who intentionally bricked people's devices is a nice benefit of CFW

For me CFW is more convenient since I don't need the GW cart.

 

[crimpshrine]

I doubt Plailect will update his guide for GW. There's no reason to do so.

It's not that I'm anti-flashcart, I just hate the GW team. They tend to take open source code, add obfuscation and bricking features, then release it as "innovation." Even so, they still take long as balls to get features out (a9lh support has been integrated into CFW for almost 2 months now)

Edit: There's also no reason to buy a gateway nowadays when there's free and open source CFW that can do everything gateway can (minus .3ds support). Back when gateway was the only solution, there was no problem with buying one, but nowadays there's almost no justification.

What do you mean there is NO reason to buy a gateway nowadays?

Gateway is a total time saver compared to CFW, so there is one really big reason.

Average write rate on install of CIA's is like 1,500 Kiloybytes per second. Average write rate copying .3ds files to a flash card to be used on a gateway is like 10 Megabytes or more per second.

Gateway is like 8x or more quicker to get to playing games then using CFW.

Some of you are so biased it is not funny. It's one thing to prefer one thing over the other, but don't twist things to suite your viewpoint.

 

[Margen67]

Some of you are so biased it is not funny. It's one thing to prefer one thing over the other, but don't twist things to suite your viewpoint.

I think I smell buyers' remorse..

 

[mgrev]

Hey OP, don't mind all the anti-flashcard guys. A lot of people on this forum have a problem with spending money apparently. 90% of them probably don't have a job. I've been a gateway user since day-one back in August 2013 and i am happy with my purchase

we are pirates, what do you expect lol

 

[crimpshrine]

I think I smell buyers' remorse..

I have 2 and just bought another. I have saved allot of time with my units over CFW. I have used both solutions, I do have 2 of my units running CFW currently waiting for the Gateway plugin for A9LH. I am just not some blind fanatic that can't tell the difference.



I keep forgetting allot of you are pretty young, might not work, etc.. and might not understand the benefits vs $70.00. Still, a poor excuse for the ignorance.

 

[Toasty]

Hey OP, don't mind all the anti-flashcard guys. A lot of people on this forum have a problem with spending money apparently. 90% of them probably don't have a job. I've been a gateway user since day-one back in August 2013 and i am happy with my purchase

Haha....are you kidding me? "A lot of people on this forum have a problem with spending money"

Think about what you just said. Why do you have a GW card? For piracy? Yeeeeeeah.

 

[Quantumcat]

I have 2 and just bought another. I have saved allot of time with my units over CFW. I have used both solutions, I do have 2 of my units running CFW currently waiting for the Gateway plugin for A9LH. I am just not some blind fanatic that can't tell the difference.



I keep forgetting allot of you are pretty young, might not work, etc.. and might not understand the benefits vs $70.00. Still, a poor excuse for the ignorance.

Why on earth would you need three? Do you have three kids who complain about installation time?
You must be quite rich to not care about $300 that wasn't necessary to spend. There's a lot of useful and necessary things you could spend that money on. Car service, rent, food...
I was using my Gateway with the ol' profile exploit right up until a few weeks ago when I got A9LH. Now it's really inconvenient to get into Gateway mode, so I just don't.
So, what YOU have is the less good hack available today, and it costs you $300 so that you can avoid setting things to install overnight :-p Yep seems really logical.
If I had kids I'd be spending money on piano lessons, school excursions etc, things they really need. If they wanted video games they could suck it up and wait 10 minutes for an installation.

 

[crimpshrine]

Why on earth would you need three? Do you have three kids who complain about installation time?
You must be quite rich to not care about $300 that wasn't necessary to spend. There's a lot of useful and necessary things you could spend that money on. Car service, rent, food...
I was using my Gateway with the ol' profile exploit right up until a few weeks ago when I got A9LH. Now it's really inconvenient to get into Gateway mode, so I just don't.
So, what YOU have is the less good hack available today, and it costs you $300 so that you can avoid setting things to install overnight :-p Yep seems really logical.
If I had kids I'd be spending money on piano lessons, school excursions etc, things they really need. If they wanted video games they could suck it up and wait 10 minutes for an installation.

First, it's not 300.00 it is $210.00 spending $210.00 is nothing for 3 gateway carts. How old are you anyhow? I have to pay double that for just one activity for one kid during the summer, and I am by no means "rich". And it's not THEIR time that I would be wasting with CFW, it's MY time. Switching back and forth with games.. They are not old enough to take care of it all.

As I said before I have used both. I am being objective here as far as the time benefit from Gateway. Using CIA's is very time consuming vs just copying .3ds files over to a micro sd card and putting it in the gateway and just playing. Time wasted is doubled for every 3ds you have to load games on.

Using NASA, CIA installation usually averages around 1,500 Kilobytes per second, copying .3ds files to a micro sd cart is 10 Megabytes per second or more if you have a good micro SD card.

Filling a micro sd card with games only takes around an hour with gateway and you are ready to go, same thing with CIA's is 6-8 hours. (assuming install does not flake out)

Repeating that a over the life of the gateway/3ds you can easily be in the area of saving 100+ hours with a gateway vs CFW for more then one 3ds. $210.00 for saving that time is great to me, my time is worth more then that.

 

[Quantumcat]

First, it's not 300.00 it is $210.00 spending $210.00 is nothing for 3 gateway carts. How old are you anyhow? I have to pay double that for just one activity for one kid during the summer, and I am by no means "rich". And it's not THEIR time that I would be wasting with CFW, it's MY time. Switching back and forth with games.. They are not old enough to take care of it all.

As I said before I have used both. I am being objective here as far as the time benefit from Gateway. Using CIA's is very time consuming vs just copying .3ds files over to a micro sd card and putting it in the gateway and just playing. Time wasted is doubled for every 3ds you have to load games on.

Using NASA, CIA installation usually averages around 1,500 Kilobytes per second, copying .3ds files to a micro sd cart is 10 Megabytes per second or more if you have a good micro SD card.

Filling a micro sd card with games only takes around an hour with gateway and you are ready to go, same thing with CIA's is 6-8 hours. (assuming install does not flake out)

Repeating that a over the life of the gateway/3ds you can easily be in the area of saving 100+ hours with a gateway vs CFW for more then one 3ds. $210.00 for saving that time is great to me, my time is worth more then that.

I've only spent about two hours total directly waiting for games to install (I usually install a bunch at once and set them going before I go to bed or leave for work in the morning). This means about $50 an hour which is about what I earn from my job - but I will always have more free time, and I can't get more working hours whenever I want (not much overtime available). So, on the surface a Gateway could nearly be worthwhile, for those with loads of hobbies who don't have any free time, except - now with A9LH it actually takes a bunch more time to use the Gateway card (you have to set up the 9.2 emuNAND and remember to hold the button to boot into it, then you have to start up Gateway mode using the DS profile exploit or from the homebrew menu, both of which need to be set up also). So, I'm actually currently saving time having ditched the Gateway (or at least I will be once I've been using it long enough to counter the 6 hours or so it took to set up).
If you get A9LH for your kid's consoles you can also avoid having to boot into gateway mode for them when they turn their consoles off (I am assuming they need you for this, since they aren't capable of using a computer to copy files, they probably can't navigate the menus of a 3DS either).
And to answer your question I'm a 29-year-old female public servant.

 

[Jao Chu]

Haha....are you kidding me? "A lot of people on this forum have a problem with spending money"

Think about what you just said. Why do you have a GW card? For piracy? Yeeeeeeah.

Because I live in Thailand, where gaming is notoriously expensive because everything is imported from the US. And more recently, the poor exchange rate my Aussie dollar gets for Thai currency.... I refuse to pay over 2 times the price of what a game is worth in Australia

 

[crimpshrine]

I've only spent about two hours total directly waiting for games to install (I usually install a bunch at once and set them going before I go to bed or leave for work in the morning). This means about $50 an hour which is about what I earn from my job - but I will always have more free time, and I can't get more working hours whenever I want (not much overtime available). So, on the surface a Gateway could nearly be worthwhile, for those with loads of hobbies who don't have any free time, except - now with A9LH it actually takes a bunch more time to use the Gateway card (you have to set up the 9.2 emuNAND and remember to hold the button to boot into it, then you have to start up Gateway mode using the DS profile exploit or from the homebrew menu, both of which need to be set up also). So, I'm actually currently saving time having ditched the Gateway (or at least I will be once I've been using it long enough to counter the 6 hours or so it took to set up).
If you get A9LH for your kid's consoles you can also avoid having to boot into gateway mode for them when they turn their consoles off (I am assuming they need you for this, since they aren't capable of using a computer to copy files, they probably can't navigate the menus of a 3DS either).
And to answer your question I'm a 29-year-old female public servant.

I do like A9LH for the 100% quick boot rate though, I am just waiting for the gateway plugin for the best of both worlds in my opinion. Quick 100% boot rate, with easy accessibility to games. With my kids if they both want a couple new games on their 3dses when I get home from work or we are going somewhere, I can just quickly copy them over to the micro sd card in a few minutes, plug it back in and they are ready to go. It's just not the same experience with custom firmware.

Going back to my original point, my argument mainly lies with the fact that Gateway still has value for many. Most comments I see from users that use gateway have the same sentiments. Those that post that GW is useless now don't seem to understand there are other selling points, or just ignore those facts.

Plus it's a heck of allot easier to manage your titles on a card based on file names vs a card full of CIA's. If my kids want games A + B + G + H off their cards, I just pop it in and delete the file names. Done.

There is always room for more than 1 tool with different functions. Those saying Gateway is pointless are being narrow minded. I understand why those like CFW, but there is still room for the Gateway CFW if it does things NO OTHER CFW does, until it doesn't, there is a point to it.

 

[Quantumcat]

(For deleting games, you just go to settings, software, 3ds software and delete the ones you no longer want. Easier than needing to use a computer. There's also no crime in naming cia files whatever you want. You can call them bob.cia if you want)

 

[crimpshrine]

(For deleting games, you just go to settings, software, 3ds software and delete the ones you no longer want. Easier than needing to use a computer. There's also no crime in naming cia files whatever you want. You can call them bob.cia if you want)

Oh I was not aware you could delete the games that way, I thought you wanted to use a CIA manager, and since none (to my knowledge) list the game title it seemed pretty cumbersome doing it that way. Thanks.

In any case I will continue to use my GW's given how much quicker it is with dealing with games, I just hope they release their A9LH plugin soon.

Also are you going to sell your GW here? Or did you already sell it?

 

[Quantumcat]

Oh I was not aware you could delete the games that way, I thought you wanted to use a CIA manager, and since none (to my knowledge) list the game title it seemed pretty cumbersome doing it that way. Thanks.

In any case I will continue to use my GW's given how much quicker it is with dealing with games, I just hope they release their A9LH plugin soon.

Also are you going to sell your GW here? Or did you already sell it?

I swapped it for a Sky (so I can sell cubic ninja and cooking mama). I asked the person I swapped it with to use tracking and he didn't -_- so I don't know if I'll receive it or not. If he has scammed me the forum will hear about it.