How to format emunand/nand and keep installed titles

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  1. democracy
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    Is it possible?
     


  2. ih8ih8sn0w

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    No because formatting makes a new folder in /Nintendo 3ds/ which is part of the initial setup. you can always just keep a backup of emunand before you format, and restore it later though.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. Just as I thought. I can't use updated sysnand mode then because I have two emunand that both stem from same emunand, if I make one of my emunands my nand then the other emunand gets the gift bug...

    anyway around this? If I could format the emunand and restore the titles then I wouldnt loose any installed titles.
     
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    use win32disk to backup ur sdcard as img
     
  5. squee666

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    That why they say to clone your sysnand to your emunand so they are seperate.

    But if both your emunand and your Nand there is a solution.

    Format SYSNAND with sd card removed.
    It will lose its titles but your EMUnand will still have them.


    Then if you want Sysnand to have your emunand. Backup both CTRSysnand and CTREmunand
    Then restor Sysnand backup to emunand and Emunand backup to sysnand
     
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  6. MAXLEMPIRA

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    Yes, just extract seed.bin and movable.seed from the NAND with your CIAs and inject them after a format, you need to backup your Nintendo 3DS Folder before the format, after format, start your emuNAND and shut it off, then inject your seed.bin and movable.seed on emuNAND, and start again your emuNAND, after the initial start up settings, games will be there as if they were pre-installed :D (I'm not saying that they will work as a pre-installed game or that they will be attatched to your Console/NNID, just those game will be there like a brand new console with pre-installed games ;)) Have fun¡
     
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    Wow, really? have you tried this? Does this work? I think I kind of understand your disclaimer; "I'm not saying that they will work as a pre-installed game or that they will be attatched to your Console/NNID"

    Are your saying the games will work but I won't have online capability for those games?
     
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    Sorry¡ my bad, it's not seed.bin, it's ticket.db the one you must extract

    Ticket.db contain the tickets from installed games, and movable.seed contain the random numbers of generated folders
     
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    His problem us his Nand and Emunand are the exact same. Updated sysnand mode is A9LH.
    If he restore the seed.bin and movable.seed he will revert back to his original problem lol as it relinks to the old folders
     
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    MAXLEMPIRA Legends are Made from True Stories...

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    Yeah¡ I've done this from a long time too many times haha, I tought that it was a knowledge thing

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    Oh, miss this part, so exactly what he wants is¿ Maybe I can help
     
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    So now way to pull this off, eh?

    Okay, well, what about this then;
    1) can I merge the ticket.db and movable seed bin from one emunand into the other because both emunands stem from the same emunand
    2) If yes to above, can i still do this if the end result is over the max limit of installed titles?
     
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    Only way to do No2 is to Format/reset 3DS in Sysnand settings with SD card removed.
    That means it will unlink the nands. Your Sysnand will lose its games list but your emunand will keep its list.

    If you wanted to keep your gameslist on Sysnand but lose it on emunand you would have to swap nands (theres tutorials on it)

    1) yes you can Merge it to another card
     
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    From what I understand... You have an Updated Sysnand, and two emuNAND created from the same NAND, And you want to make one of those your sysNAND¿ You can backup on of those emuNAND, format it and do it your sysNAND, the just replace the formatted emuNAND with the backup, am I right¿

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    From what I know, there is no way to merge ticket.db, not even Nintendo 3DS Folders on different SDCards
     
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    i meant if you restores his ticket.db , import.db and seeds/moveable seeds to the other Emunand and uses the same folder layout it will work.
     
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    Yes, I want to go updated sysnand; make one of my two emunand my sysnand and not lose any installed titles. I dont think I am able to do this without creating a gift bug on emunand, which is something I dont want
     
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    Oh¡ keeping your installed games on your sysNAND¿ let me think...

    Hmmn... Apparently it's not possible like that... To get those games recognized by a NAND, you need the movable.seed, wich will "link" your NANDs and show the unwrapped bug, and to show the games on N3DS Folder you need the ticket.db with the tickets of those games... And another folder called "dbs" contained on N3DS Folder too... So, maybe you can try to extract seed.bin from emuNAND, and the 3 Folders under your second randomnumber Folder, then format emuNAND, het to home menu and inject ticket.db, then copy those 3 folders to the same place on your new N3DS folder... I don' t think it will work, but you can try, and I hope that you understand this...
     
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    First you Have to Unlink Nands.
    Go to sysnand and remove SD card and Format System.
    You will Lose Sysnands game List
    Emunands Game List will still be there

    Follow this Guide and Swap Sysnand And Emunand




    Your Sysnand will now have the game list, your emunand will be free to install games to
     
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    The only way I think I can do this is if I am able to batch hex edit change the Nintendo 3ds ID folder number for all of my installed titles? does that make sense?

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    ? wut
    If you do what i said about unlinking Nands (formatting Sysnand in settings with SD removed)
    then sysnand will creates a new 3DS ID folder for all the new titles you install.

    Then swapping Emunand and Sysnand means Sysnand will use folder with all the games installed and Emunand will use the NEW blank folder
     
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    okay; i have;
    Emunand1 card: titles installed
    Emunand2 card: different titles installed
    both emunand 1 & 2 have the same Nintendo 3ds ID folder but have different titles installed and consequently different data within data management.

    I want to make Emunand1 my sysnand and still be able to use emunand2 without gift bug.

    You say to format Emunand1/Sysnand which will create a new ID folder, how do I restore my previously installed title from emunand1 to sysnand under the new id folder?