Tutorial How to Do things online on the 3ds without risk of getting banned. "3DS Safemode" as I call it.

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Not overly. Both of those videos you linked have caused a lot of people to come here cause they left out vital information which they think their consoles became bricked.
I did not kno that. I personaly used the fastboot video to get fastboot on my 3ds, but if you think I should remove them, give me a link to a better alternative.
 

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I did not kno that. I personaly used the fastboot video to get fastboot on my 3ds, but if you think I should remove them, give me a link to a better alternative.
The only one people here with recommend is https://3ds.hacks.guide/ . There are no video ones that will be said, they all become outdated and most usually have missing info or files.
 
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I think LinusRG wrote this with the best of intentions. It's true that video guides can become outdated very quickly and can cause more problems and we should always stick to 'the guide'.

However, instead of being negative, we should encourage LinusRG to make his project in a different way.

His intentions were good.
 

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I think LinusRG wrote this with the best of intentions. It's true that video guides can become outdated very quickly and can cause more problems and we should always stick to 'the guide'.

However, instead of being negative, we should encourage LinusRG to make his project in a different way.

His intentions were good.
I don't doubt about @LinusRG intentions in the slightest, but isn't his first thread and has been here since 2017 according his account.
 
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I don't doubt about @LinusRG intentions in the slightest, but isn't his first thread and has been here since 2017 according his account.
Who the hell cares. I switched to reddit for a while as I thought it would be more convenient.

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I think LinusRG wrote this with the best of intentions. It's true that video guides can become outdated very quickly and can cause more problems and we should always stick to 'the guide'.

However, instead of being negative, we should encourage LinusRG to make his project in a different way.

His intentions were good.
Thank you. When I was making this I thought, "hey maybe if people boot into stock firmware they can avoid being banned as Nintendo would have a lot of trouble finding the CFW in that state."
 
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DO NOT FOLLOW THIS GUIDE, YOU COULD END UP WITH A BRICKED SYSTEM!!!!!

Now to elaborate, even if you don't press the "Update" option in your 3ds, there is a chance that the 3ds will detect the firm0 partition outdated and will install the default firmware .firm to the firm0 partition (a.k.a. where b9s is stored) deleting b9s/fastboot. This happens 100% of the time if you launch a 3DS download play game, but may happen in some other situations as well. The only way to recover CFW would be to follow the guide again, but if for some reason the user has a modified system title that only works with CFW, they will be bricked unless they use ntrboot to install CFW again.
You should edit the OP saying this risk is present.

I know it was a ban. I tried running MK7 online without CTGP7 and it would not allow me into the course.
This is not a ban, otherwise you wouldn't be able to get into the online menu at all. The only thing Nintendo is able to detect (this doesn't mean they are detecting it) is people using an unused online region. However due to a bug even people without CFW can join this region, so they can't take the risk of banning everyone in this region as they would ban a lot of people with legit consoles. Also, a small group of beta testers were playing in this region for months before ctww was made public, and so far (1 year after) no bans have been reported.
 
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DO NOT FOLLOW THIS GUIDE, YOU COULD END UP WITH A BRICKED SYSTEM!!!!!

Now to elaborate, even if you don't press the "Update" option in your 3ds, there is a chance that the 3ds will detect the firm0 partition outdated and will install the default firmware .firm to the firm0 partition (a.k.a. where b9s is stored) deleting b9s/fastboot. This happens 100% of the time if you launch a 3DS download play game, but may happen in some other situations as well. The only way to recover CFW would be to follow the guide again, but if for some reason the user has a modified system title that only works with CFW, they will be bricked unless they use ntrboot to install CFW again.
You should edit the OP saying this risk is present.


This is not a ban, otherwise you wouldn't be able to get into the online menu at all. The only thing Nintendo is able to detect (this doesn't mean they are detecting it) is people using an unused online region. However due to a bug even people without CFW can join this region, so they can't take the risk of banning everyone in this region as they would ban a lot of people with legit consoles. Also, a small group of beta testers were playing in this region for months before ctww was made public, and so far (1 year after) no bans have been reported.
The 3ds isn't even getting more updates anyways. Haven't you noticed that Nintendo used to release a 3ds firmware alongside a switch firmware? Well, 3 switch versions have been released since then and no 3ds updates. Besides yah obviously don't update in this mode.
 

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The 3ds isn't even getting more updates anyways. Haven't you noticed that Nintendo used to release a 3ds firmware alongside a switch firmware? Well, 3 switch versions have been released since then and no 3ds updates. Besides yah obviously don't update in this mode.
You are getting it wrong. The 3ds tries to install the stock firmware into firm0, even if the console is offline and/or the console is in the latest version.
It is okay to launch the firmware to test if it's working, as pointed out in the cfw uninstall guide. But not for continued use.
Again, I'd recommend putting the notice in the OP if you don't want to end up with the same reputation as some youtubers got for bricking people consoles on accident.
 
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You are getting it wrong. The 3ds tries to install the stock firmware into firm0, even if the console is offline and/or the console is in the latest version.
I did not know that. So then what is the firm 2 slot used for?
 

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Luma patches the kernel and adds extra functionality to it.
And does boot9strap boot luma and luma boots that unnamed firm file? If so why just not modify that .firm file straight up to make booting even faster?
 

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This is not safe at all. There's no FIRM protection in place when booting like this, and if the console is updated B9S will be wiped. Moreover, if there was any risk of installed CIAs being detected by Nintendo (there isn't), that risk doesn't go away from booting stock OFW, they are still there. The system just detects the invalid signatures and refuses to launch them, which makes it more suspicious as normally the system thinks all is fine. There is a reason Luma3DS doesn't already have an OFW mode, because it's pointless and unsafe.
 

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Neat guide but not gonna lie, it’s really pointless. Nintendo hasn’t banned CFW users outside of that one ban wave (and we are still not sure if CFW caused that.) Outside of that one day, Nintendo hasn’t banned anyone outside of cheating, playing popular games like Pokémon before release, and abuse of Miiverse. There are no risk playing games online while running a CFW nor even a risk of using CIA games. Not to mention your guide actually makes the system less safe by disabling all of the protections through CFW, like the FIRM protection.
I think LinusRG wrote this with the best of intentions. It's true that video guides can become outdated very quickly and can cause more problems and we should always stick to 'the guide'.

However, instead of being negative, we should encourage LinusRG to make his project in a different way.

His intentions were good.
His intentions may have been good but his guide is still harmful and a result of ignorance, which needs to be pointed out. Using the advice in this guide could risk removing a CFW or worse, bricking a system and all because the OP doesn't realize that CFW doesn't get you banned. People following this guide most likely don't realize that they are putting their system in harm's way by doing this because they are trusting this will make their system safer and less likely to get banned.
 
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I GET THE FUCKING MESSAGE THAT HAS BEEN SAID AT LEAST 5 TIMES ALREADY!!! IF YOU WANT ME TO REMOVE IT I WILL. JESUS.
Chill dude, I am not here to be confrontational. I am just chiming in as a trusted user of the 3DS hacking community.
 
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