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How do you update games if your console doesnt have the current version? for example, i have 9.4 on the N3DS and its telling me that in order to play the game, even single player, i have to update the game. So how do I update the game without updating the console?

also, does anyone know where the SD card is on the N3DS? i cant seem to find it. lol
 

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You don't.

With gateway you can update by installing .cia, but there is no gateway for N3DS yet. The micro sd card is under the back.
 

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You don't.

With gateway you can update by installing .cia, but there is no gateway for N3DS yet. The micro sd card is under the back.


So in other words, I wont be able to play my super smash bros cart unless i upgrade? How to people play online then if/when there is a patch for that game that requires the update in order to play online?

and im using sky3ds also.
 

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So in other words, I wont be able to play my super smash bros cart unless i upgrade? How to people play online then if/when there is a patch for that game that requires the update in order to play online?

and im using sky3ds also.

Everything I'm saying is from the view of someone who uses gateway, so it might be a bit different for sky. This is to the best of my knowledge.

If you aren't going to play a game online and the game requires a game update, you can just ignore the game update sometimes (all the time?) by pressing the A button to launch instead of the Y button to go to eshop (1). If you want to play online, you need the latest game update. If you are on the latest firmware, you can download the update for the game from the eshop if your game is the same region as your eshop (2), or you can use cia updates (3). If your game and eshop are different regions, you have to use cia updates (4).

1. The JP Smash rom on my NTSC-U console tells me an update is available when I try to launch it. I press the A button to ignore the prompt and play the game. I can't play online.
2. My NTSC-U copy of Pokémon Y with my NTSC-U console has an update available. I am on the most recent firmware. I load up the eshop and download the update.
3. Same game and console as № 2, but my console isn't on the latest firmware. I have to find the update as a cia file and install the cia file myself because I can't access the eshop (outdated firmware). Sky users can't install cia files with only the sky card.
4. My JP dump of Monster Hunter 4 G needs an update on my NTSC-U console. I want to play online so I have to find the update as a cia file and install the cia file myself because I can't access the eshop (different region). Sky users can't install cia files with only the sky card.
 
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Everything I'm saying is from the view of someone who uses gateway, so it might be a bit different for sky. This is to the best of my knowledge.

If you aren't going to play a game online and the game requires a game update, you can just ignore the game update sometimes (all the time?) by pressing the A button to launch instead of the Y button to go to eshop (1). If you want to play online, you need the latest game update. If you are on the latest firmware, you can download the update for the game from the eshop if your game is the same region as your eshop (2), or you can use cia updates (3). If your game and eshop are different regions, you have to use cia updates (4).

1. The JP Smash rom on my NTSC-U console tells me an update is available when I try to launch it. I press the A button to ignore the prompt and play the game. I can't play online.
2. My NTSC-U copy of Pokémon Y with my NTSC-U console has an update available. I am on the most recent firmware. I load up the eshop and download the update.
3. Same game and console as № 2, but my console isn't on the latest firmware. I have to find the update as a cia file and install the cia file myself because I can't access the eshop (outdated firmware). Sky users can't install cia files with only the sky card.
4. My JP dump of Monster Hunter 4 G needs an update on my NTSC-U console. I want to play online so I have to find the update as a cia file and install the cia file myself because I can't access the eshop (different region). Sky users can't install cia files with only the sky card.


I pushed A to launch the game instead of Y to update it and it says "Unable to find the latest data for super smash bros for N3DS. please close the game and go to nintendo eshop to download the latest update data to your sd card"
 

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Doesn't the update get installed to the sd card? Can't you transfer the update from the sd to the micro sd (assuming you can update via an older ds with gateway)?
 

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I pushed A to launch the game instead of Y to update it and it says "Unable to find the latest data for super smash bros for N3DS. please close the game and go to nintendo eshop to download the latest update data to your sd card"
I don't know why it's different for you. I can do it just fine. I just press the A button from the point in the picture(https://i.imgur.com/TqJsIqt.jpg) and it works. Could anyone playing on a sky card weight in?

try turning off wifi maybe, I just got a n3ds and smash today and I immediately popped it in and started playing offline on 9.0

I've never had a problem playing with wifi on besides the screen saying update available that I can bypass.
 

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Doesn't the update get installed to the sd card? Can't you transfer the update from the sd to the micro sd (assuming you can update via an older ds with gateway)?

I have no idea if this works. My hunch is that game patches are not tied to the system in any way.

My brother has the Smash retail cart but not a Gateway. I ripped my update folder for him so he can stay on 9.2 and still play Smash online with me. He hasn't tested it yet; maybe you can beat him to it! Here's the instructions I sent him:

1) Open your SD card on your PC
2) Inside you'll have a folder structure like this (I broke it into lines)

\Nintendo 3DS
\2d4ff57ee8a0d439599a39436be3ccd5
\19e300c83110b5203030303000284245
\title
\0004000e
\000edf00

Folders #2 and #3 (the long ones) might be different on your SD, but the other directories should be the same.

3) \000edf00 is the Smash Bros game ID where the updates are stored. Backup that folder (just in case). Delete it from your SD.

4) Download my \000edf00 folder.
http://www39.zippyshare.com/v/UHHgdw1I/file.html

5) You'll find the \000edf00 folder inside the zip. Put that folder where yours was.

6) Play Smash online with firmware 9.2????
 

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I have no idea if this works. My hunch is that game patches are not tied to the system in any way.

My brother has the Smash retail cart but not a Gateway. I ripped my update folder for him so he can stay on 9.2 and still play Smash online with me. He hasn't tested it yet; maybe you can beat him to it! Here's the instructions I sent him:

1) Open your SD card on your PC
2) Inside you'll have a folder structure like this (I broke it into lines)

\Nintendo 3DS
\2d4ff57ee8a0d439599a39436be3ccd5
\19e300c83110b5203030303000284245
\title
\0004000e
\000edf00

Folders #2 and #3 (the long ones) might be different on your SD, but the other directories should be the same.

3) \000edf00 is the Smash Bros game ID where the updates are stored. Backup that folder (just in case). Delete it from your SD.

4) Download my \000edf00 folder.
http://www39.zippyshare.com/v/UHHgdw1I/file.html

5) You'll find the \000edf00 folder inside the zip. Put that folder where yours was.

6) Play Smash online with firmware 9.2????

my firmware on the N3DS is 9.4 will this work?
 

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Tyrantt, the folder I uploaded is for the USA version. It's possible that the region doesn't matter(?).
Does not work for me, tried replacing the whole folder with yours and it says that there are no update files and i have to download the latest update. So then i named each file from the 1.0.5 update the same file names from the 1.0.4 update and it still reads it as 1.0.4 update. Also in the data management despite having the 1.0.5 update folder it still reads as 1.0.4 update. I might be doing something wrong and someone might figure it out later on.
 

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There is no way this method would work, as content is encrypted per-device. The only way to get your update, is to update the console (which you can't really do on the N3DS yet), or install a cia containing the update, which is also a no go on the N3DS. That is it.
 
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There is no way this method would work, as content is encrypted per-device. The only way to get your update, is to update the console (which you can't really do on the N3DS yet), or install a cia containing the update, which is also a no go on the N3DS. That is it.

Any chance we could grab the update with FunkyCIA2?

https://gbatemp.net/threads/release...our-eshop-content-super-easy-and-fast.376941/
  • Ignore titles. = You can download all titles of a certain type or types, but choose to ignore specific games. For example, downloading all updates, but not the update for mario kart 7 and pokemon x, you can type this "-type updates -ignoretitles 0004000E00030700 0004000E00055D00"

I wonder if this would apply to updates:
REMEMBER, if you make a CIA from your bundled game, then it will work on any 3DS, without any hacks/patches!
 

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if i used the cia update on emunand
will it work when i am back to sysnand ?
for example
i have 9.2 sysnand and 9.5 emunand
installed SSB update on emunand
will it work when i am back to sysnand ?
 

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