How do you feel about the phrase "I'll pray for you"?

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  1. Nerdtendo
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    i dont mind it. i mean, if someone says "ill pray for you", that means thats what they can do for you. they cant get you out of your problem or dilemma. saying "ill pray for you" means that they wish the best for you. thats pretty nice.
     
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    How dos't thou figure?
     
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    I can see where praying with someone can provide emotional support, but the idea of "praying for someone" just seems like an empty promise. That's my issue with the idea of "praying for someone," is that it often comes off as empty and lazy. Even though praying with someone doesn't really fix the problem, at least they are there to give emotional support and a human connection that is needed when dealing an issue.
     
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    I'm not trying to insult anybody but I'm a strong Atheist and if you think that whispering a few words nobody else hears then you're doing as good as nothing, besides potential emotional support. I've never actually heard someone say "ill pray to you" before though.
     
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    Actually, I would prefer somebody saying "I'll pray for you" than them actually coming to help me. The only way I wouldn't is if I knew them very personally.

    While the phrase "I'll pray for you" may be used as a cop out, a worse thing is telling your employer you are going to help the individuals just to get out of work or school. Although some people may not get paid leave, or use up vacation time, a few of my personal friends have abused this to go and do whatever while getting paid time off.

    And for people who do believe in prayer, their prayer can help you in ways you can't imagine so you better shut up and accept it gracefully (if they are sincere) because it could mean the difference between life and death.
     
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    English is not my native language, i don't understand your message. I apologize.
     
  8. TotalInsanity4

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    I was being silly and bastardizing Olde English, I was asking "Why would you say that?"
     
  9. lzyslckr

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    So found this. Basically, your prayers to someone mean nothing if there is no action to back them up.
     
  10. Nerdtendo
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    Excellent example. That really extends much further than prayer but yes, you're exactly right
     
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    The more effective kind of prayers are not "Please help them" but "What can I do to help?". But then if you can't get out and do more than pray, such as if you are really poor or the like, the recipients have to be willing to accept your prayer. If God is real, and you deny his help, you can only blame yourself, not those who tried.
     
  12. TotalInsanity4

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    So... The most effective form of prayer is self-reflection followed by direct action

    I'm not saying that that's not the right way to go about it, but given that everything as a result of that stems from human consciousness and action, I don't know if I'd classify that as "prayer" so much as "meditation"
     
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    "Self-reflection" assumes that God isn't giving you ideas or recommendations.
     
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    Whether prayers make a difference or not is something that nobody can really know, but the important thing to remember is that when somebody says it, and they mean it sincerely, it's a sign that they care about your situation. In a situation where you lose someone you love for example, there's not much the average person can do to help you, but saying they'll pray for you at least shows they care about your situation and that they hope the best for you. Regardless of if their prayers will affect anything, it's at least a kind gesture.
     
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    Correct, which you can't prove is the case 100% of the time, even if a god (Christian or otherwise) were to give guidance on occasion
     
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