How come SX OS hasn't been updated yet?

Discussion in 'Switch - Backup Loaders & Modchips' started by blackwhitexy, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:03 AM.

  1. Localhorst86

    Localhorst86 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    Ah yes. Let's all just randomly bash the american school system.
    I have showed you a clear example of a text that people can understand. I do know the internet is vast and contains a lot of letters making up lots of words (i know the best words) forming sentences. That's a a lot of information out there and the information not to update is certainly out there. But if you STILL think I you are superior to everyone else and get to call everyone else names because they are not at your level, you're still missing my point entirely.

    I am not saying that what you wrote is incorrect. I am telling you to stop being a dick because not everyone is as glorious as you and knows how to have all information on the internet.

    EDIT: I just realized: you still think I am complaining about 6.2.0 compatibility despite me having clearly written multiple times that I don't - That's not what I am on about. Maybe I misjudged your reading skills.
     
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  2. Whole lotta love

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    XCI's != Carts. The only suggestion presented is to use XCI's over NSPs IN ORDER TO PREVENT BANS so users can still access the eshop. That's the whole point behind features like stealth mode and emunand. There's no point in protecting online access if it's not to be used.


    Okay, this is epic.
     
  3. gizmomelb

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    not a random bash at all.. there are clear examples on here from users with US flags as their locations who clearly cannot understand the text put in front of them. I am making my comment from the evidence put in front of me.

    Just like how I questioned what people were posting WAS on the Executor web site, I went and investigated the main page and followed the instruction of ''click here'' and there was the information clear as day.

    I am not being high and mighty as you put it, I am simply incredulous at the lack of common sense and lack of even the smallest amount of investigation other than quoting what others are posting in the same thread.

    It's bad enough with the TX haters spreading misinformation, but when people who are using a product start complaining because THEY have made a mistake and updated firmware (when every single comments for every firmware release are to hold off in case of compatibility issues) and are now having a problem then that is too much.

    MY LEVEL is I have a brain and I question things all the time - even things that *I* do. When I go to fill up the car with fuel - I double check I'm holding the DIESEL pump BEFORE I put it in the fuel inlet. I'm not the type of person to put regular fuel in my DIESEL car and then try to blame the fuel station for MY mistake.

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    But have you tried? I've returned items to Amazon for refund, had a refund after parcels went missing off my doorstop and I've not had a single enquiry from the Amazon reps at all.
     
  4. Whole lotta love

    Whole lotta love GBAtemp Regular

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    i'm not going to defraud amazon because im too lazy to wait for TX to get their shit together
     
  5. pworld

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    There is a point, namely preserving resell value.
    Until 6.2 it was common knowledge (well, we thought it) that updating CFW for a new FW version was only a matter of days, and could be surely done. Now we know that N could do something more, but we didn't before.
     
  6. leerpsp

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    seems like updates are slowing down with them and really it would shock me if they keep updating it after a year even though they told ever one that we would get free life time updates, To bad They will prob go back on it.
     
  7. pworld

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    Unfortunately, "lifetime" is seen as "lifetime of the product". What shady companies typically do if they still want to make money: Just release a new product ...
     
  8. leerpsp

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    at lest if they stop updating it there will be something better for me to try. But I payed for it so i'm gonna use it as long as I can.
     
  9. gizmomelb

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    How is it fraud? the game is not compatible with your hardware because you modified it. If you were going to KEEP the download and try to return it, yes it is fraud.

    Also I doubt that your SX OS licenced version is used solely for running personal backups, so the defraud comment made me smile. Thank you.

    Otherwise, wait until SX OS has an update to fully work under 6.2 - it's not going to be an under 2 week software development period and it may well not be released until next year - Just because you want it now because you made the mistake and updated to 6.2 isn't going to change a thing. It'll be released when it's released (gee isn't that the mantra of the ENTIRE software industry?)

    Look at recent Windows 10 patches.. they have been written, tested, pushed out and then RECALLED because there were found to be specific case instances where data was deleted (which weren't encountered when in testing). If SX push out a fast update, which then causes major problems and bricks hardware there'll be even more of an uproar than the potential few weeks it might take for a 6.2 solution to be written and given at least some decent testing before rolling out to the public as a BETA release.
     
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  10. Whole lotta love

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    Resale value is preserved by access to online services...
    I would love to see where TX said emunand and stealth mode was to maintain the resale value of their customer's units.

    You can't return a download code.
     
  11. WiiuGold

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    Everyone has to relax .. longer the better the update will be :yayswitch:
     
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  12. gizmomelb

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    If the game is incompatible with your hardware then it is legal and enforceable under Australian Consumer Law that the seller has to give a refund to the purchaser. I am surprised it is not similar in the USA. The idea is to protect the BUYER and not the corporate sellers (who often have legalese fine print clauses etc. in their contracts).

    There is also a reasonable time exception where you can return the digital copy of the game if you don't like it - eg: yeah even STEAM has to refund games if you play them for less of a reasonable time (usually an hour or two) and you simply don't LIKE the game.
     
  13. Whole lotta love

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    America has very poor consumer protection laws, I appreciate you looking out for me though.

    Amazon does not share Steam's policy. That would lead to massive fraud as you are buying a CD key from them so they can't remove the game from your eshop library after they refund you.
     
  14. gizmomelb

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    Whoa!! THAT really sucks mate. Best thing is just hold on for a sec I know it sucks with your updated Switch, but I'm betting 6.2 support for SXOS will be out hopefully by Christmas, rewriting the NAND support with all the changes is not going to be a small task.. so even though the method of obtaining the 6.2 keys from the TSEC is out there.. getting it to work with NAND isn't going to be easy. It may be possible to release a BETA 2.4 with 6.2 support and NO NAND, but if features are REMOVED from support then I'm sure you can imagine the torch and pitchfork stores will be completely empty and sold out on all stock.
     
  15. Whole lotta love

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    havent updated yet but no matter, thanks
     
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  16. Localhorst86

    Localhorst86 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    I already mention that we, as members of the gbatemp community are often very much versed in these things and have lots of experience from other hacks and system as to what to do and what not to do. But not everyone is like us. For some the switch might be the first console they hack. It's new or unfamiliar territory for them. Some people don't know what a software exploit is.


    So let's play this through. We are taking the role of User McUserface from the scottish highlands. We played the DS back in 2011 and bought our switch back at launch and decide to hack our switch now because we have heard about SX OS on a youtube video from July. We're not unfamiliar with gaming but other than our R4 we used back then, we never ventured into more modern systems.

    We enter SX OS in google, as a result we get the product page (https://sx.xecuter.com/)

    We read the following sentence.

    "SX OS Works with every Nintendo Switch console released before June 2018 out there. On every firmware version!"

    This basically tells us that our switch needs 2 pre-requisites. It needs to be manufactured before june and it can be on any firmware version. And before you re-iterate again: I do know that the following sentence ("If in doubt, please check here if your switch is compatible") has a link to check if your switch is compatible but:

    a) why would I be in doubt? The sentence before that has already told us our switch is compatible.
    b) this link might not be accessible (as evidenced by the following screenshot) for whatever reason. We are not a network expert so maybe that link is just dead or currently unavailable. But that doesn't matter. We already know our switch is compatible. The makers of the product say so.
    evi.

    So, we buy the OS, maybe even the dongle and try to run it. Works just fine, everything is great. Then, one day, we go online to play Mario Kart 8 and our system tells us to update. So we update. Suddenly our SX OS stops working. So we get online search why it wouldn't work and either land in the tx forums (if we can enter them, see screenshot above) or maybe GBAtemp because it's a large gaming forum. Maybe we also still have an old GBAtemp account because we were looking into DS flashcards at some point and registered there. Maybe we were lurking for a while already, who knows. But we're not deep into the hacking """scene""" we just occassionally glance at it.

    Either way, we find out that the update is incomatible with the product we payed for. Bummer. Apparently a lot of people are having this issue. Let's read up on it. Ah yes, ok. This might take a while. We're sad. Oh look, they already fixed the issue, soon we'll be able to play our free games again, people are already saying they can run hacks on their system again. Surely the manufacturers must be able to provide a fix very soon.

    *1 week passes*

    well, there's still no fix. Let's better ask if anyone knows something or maybe use the thread we just found to mention that we are also waiting for a fix for our product.
    We don't get many helpfull responses, some facecious jokes. And then there's guys like you who - for no reason - call us a retard or an idiot for updating or not roaming every possible hacking website.
    When we purchased the product, it never told us not to update. Heck, their page still says it works on every firmware. Why are we the idiot now?

    Behaviour like yours is not helpfull, it's toxic. Just because someone didn't roam all possible sources available on the internet doesn't make them a retard. Teach them to become better, don't drive them away by being hostile. Don't assume that everyone knows exactly everything you do. Imagine your average user and then assume half know even less than that. No one is an idiot for knowing less than you.
     
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  17. matias3ds

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    Totally Agree , better software for easy cheating
     
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  18. RedHunter

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    Oh come on it takes a minute to come on gbatemp and see if an update break something or it's safe, it's the first rule to not update before you are sure the update is safe, regardless of what TX says anything can happen.
    This said i agree that they're not doing a good job here making us waiting all this time.
     
  19. WonderBoom

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    They need SciresM to help them for free to they can sell on the code :DDD
     
  20. Localhorst86

    Localhorst86 GBAtemp Advanced Maniac

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    https://gbatemp.net/threads/how-come-sx-os-hasnt-been-updated-yet.525191/page-7#post-8417828

    particularly the first paragraph.
     
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