Honour killers thrown away for 18 years

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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100616/...b_death_charged

BRAMPTON, Ont. - The twisted mindset that led a headstrong 16-year-old girl's father and brother to kill her in the belief it would spare the family embarrassment is abhorrent, a judge said Wednesday.

Muhammad, 60, and Waqas Parvez, 29, were both sentenced to at least 18 years in prison after pleading guilty to the second-degree murder of Aqsa Parvez in a so-called honour killing.

In the weeks leading up to the 2007 killing Aqsa had clashed with her family — originally from Pakistan — over her desire to shed the hijab, wear western clothing and have the same freedoms as her friends.

The two Parvez men believed they could keep the family's pride intact by killing Aqsa, rather than letting her have a part-time job and go to the movies with friends, according to facts agreed to in court after the men pleaded guilty Tuesday.

Superior Court Justice Bruce Durno called it "profoundly disturbing" that young Aqsa, facing the struggles of a modern teen's life amid strict family values, could be murdered by the very people who were supposed to protect her.

The killing was all for the purpose of avoiding "what they perceived as the community embarrassment of not being able to control a young woman they believed was rebellious," Durno said in passing sentence Wednesday.

"That twisted, chilling and repugnant mindset could imply that the family pride could at least be kept intact or perhaps even enhanced by having two grown men overpower and kill a vulnerable teenager."

A second-degree murder conviction carries an automatic life sentence and the judge has discretion to set parole ineligibility at between 10 and 25 years. Both the Crown and defence called for the men to serve 18 years before being eligible for parole and Durno agreed.

"This is clearly a case where there must be a very significant increase above the minimum because of the breach of trust from Muhammad, the abuse of a person under 18 by both, the abhorrent motivation behind the crime... (and) the gender equality issues," he said.

According to the United Nations, as many as 5,000 girls and women are murdered every year around the world as part of so-called honour killings, a crime generally defined as the premeditated murder of a female relative believed to have brought dishonour upon her family.

Crown attorney Mara Basso said outside court that after Aqsa's "shameful, horrible, evil, barbaric murder," the sentences bring her the justice and dignity in death that she never got in life.

"We all have to band together to see that there are no more deaths like Aqsa's," she said.

"We need to honour her memory because she was a very courageous young girl who had the courage to stand up for herself, for her principles every day in that lonely home."

The Parvez family home was not lonely in the literal sense — Muhammad Parvez and his wife were living there, along with six of their eight children, three of their children's spouses and two grandchildren.

Aqsa was allowed only to go straight to and from school, couldn't socialize with friends outside school, was forbidden from getting a part-time job and had no door on her bedroom.

She was eventually allowed to wear western clothing, which the family viewed as a huge concession and was frustrated she still could not be controlled, according to the agreed facts.

The father and brother's defence lawyers said this case is not an honour killing, rather a domestic crime in a dysfunctional family with some very archaic gender notions.

"It stigmatizes a segment of the community for the actions of very few, which does nothing to further what we need to do to prevent this in the future," Joseph Neuberger, Waqas Parvez's lawyer, said outside court.

"We have to do a good job at reaching out to these families (new to Canada) and not only inviting them into a multicultural society, but I think we have to spend more time on what we mean by social inclusion."

After they were sentenced, Muhammad Parvez put his arm around his son's shoulder, and with a slight nod and wave to family in the courtroom, the two killers were led away to begin their life sentences.



I am all for allowing people to keep their culture, but this kind of crap goes too far and it boils my blood. This sort of stuff may be acceptable in Pakistan, but here we will throw the book at anyone who does it and I hope this sets a precedent and standard for all similar cases. This is a disgrace and just goes to show how pathetic some religions are and how little they value the lives of women. Too bad 18 years isn't long enough for these sick bastards to rot in a prison, the death penalty might be a better justice for those who take others lives, especially when it's their own family. These guys have disgraced themselves and their family with such a sick and twisted act, if I were the government I would revoke passports and send these people back from whence they came and let Pakistan deal with them. Hey, if immigrants don't want to abide by our laws, get the fudge out!
 

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Veho said:
Only 18 years? They deserve a lot more.
Welcome to Canada. It's like they don't even care.


Murdered 4 people by crashing into a sushi restaurant? The "accident' costs lives and millions of dollars? You'll be taken away for now, but you'll get your licence back in a year, and you'll be on the road again good as new.
 

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ojsinnerz. said:
Murdered 4 people by crashing into a sushi restaurant? The "accident' costs lives and millions of dollars? You'll be taken away for now, but you'll get your licence back in a year, and you'll be on the road again good as new.
Come to Belgium, not so long ago there was a guy that crashed into 4 students, of whom I personally knew 3. All students were killed in the accident. The guy gets 3 years in jail, and if he behaves well he'll be out after a couple of weeks.
 

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DSGamer64 said:
The two Parvez men believed they could keep the family's pride intact by killing Aqsa, rather than letting her have a part-time job and go to the movies with friends

Oh, for...
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Their family is probably far more embarrassed now.
 

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Veho said:
Only 18 years?

No.

QUOTEat least 18 years

People get up in arms about minimum tariffs in cases where people have a snowflake in hell's chance of being released even when that minimum tariff is up.
 

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Disgusting... Canada is pretty lenient in sentencing a lot of the time. For some crimes it's understandable, but not things like this. Their sentence should be at least 30 years (hopefully the father will die in prison), and possibly classified as dangerous offenders, which would allow them to be imprisoned for life. Any sick little freaks that would kill their daughter and sister... especially so casually... deserve no less than that.

ProtoKun7 said:
Their family is probably far more embarrassed now.
Really depends on how ingrained their archaic cultural values are on them... the fact the father and brother actually performed an "honor killing" (aka brutal murder) indicates, assuming the rest of the family is similarly inclined, that the family may actually just be furious that the government felt it had the right to intrude on what is, for them, a cultural and private matter.
 

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coolbho3000 said:
QUOTE said:
was forbidden from getting a part-time job and had no door on her bedroom.
Pardon me asking, but then how did she get in?
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As in, the door was removed. There was still a door frame. The family wanted to remove all her privacy and see what she was doing at all times.

Bloody archaic eastern traditions. Sometimes I find myself favouring capital punishment when I hear things like this.
 

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well now the father and son are gonna get molested and they'll have to do an "honour killing" of themselves. i wonder if they'll follow through with it or does it only apply to women?
 
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I saw this in the Toronto Star yesterday. I had a wtf reaction.
Canada is really lenient with their punishments for crime. We need stricter laws to keep the bad ones in jail
 

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SoulSnatcher said:
I saw this in the Toronto Star yesterday. I had a wtf reaction.
Canada is really lenient with their punishments for crime. We need stricter laws to keep the bad ones in jail
Or we should just boot them back to Pakistan with nothing but their clothes and personal belongings. I think it should be obvious that if you move to another country, you should abide by the laws of the land and I think that anyone who does immigrate here should be deported if they choose to practice certain religious acts like this here, let the government of Pakistan deal with them. The sad thing is that there is currently an estimated 5,000 women killed every year because of these honour killings which is a joke, do these people not understand anything about the rights of women that we in the western world have?

QUOTE(CamulaHikari @ Jun 17 2010, 05:08 PM) Their sentence should be a lot longer, like just let them rot there...
I really hope someone gets them in prison.
No wonder why most of the people I know voted for Wilders over here...

I would rather not waste tax money letting them rot in our prisons though, better places that money could be spent imo.
 

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