Homebrew Bounty 2018 Month 2: Switch Applications

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  1. hippy dave

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  2. DARKFiB3R

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    • If the switch could ping a message to my phone when it's finished charging, that would be handy.
    • Bluetooth audio would be really great. Is that even a possibility in the future?
     
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    A Steam Link app for the Switch please?
     
  4. Ev1l0rd

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    Submitting SwitchGuide Updater (link to Download Center is in that thread or below).

    It's a minimalistic Atmosphere/Hekate/Homebrew Launcher updater written in pyNX.

    It's rather recent (initial release was literally end of October), and I've been giving it steady updates. At the moment it needs to use an intermediary (uses my VPS for this) since libssl is just broken for homebrew in general yet, but the intent is to 100% ditch it when possible.

    Updates fusee-primary, secondary, hekate and all the fs.mitm stuff

    Major feature was added with release 1.3 (made today!), which also lets users update nx-hbloader and nx-hbmenu (the former being the nsp people need to put in the atmosphere folder to redirect the album, the latter being the HBL itself.)

    Second major feature was added in release 1.4 (made December 12th) to accomodate for an undocumented change to Atmosphere 0.8.2s file locations.

    Other download links below (including the Download Center).

    Download(switchbru) (GBATemp download center) | Source code | Serverside source code
     
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  5. blawar

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    That is a fair criticism, however there was some confusion when they first announced the bounty, I submitted my first copy of DZ to their downloads section when they announced. Then they later clarified they are doing it in stages which is weird.

    The fear I see here is, I already know of several developers who have just refused to release anything until the bounty starts to ensure they are eligible for entry without having to follow up with a major update. I think he eligibility should start from the time the contest was announced, not when this months bounty actually started or you will be encouraging devs not to release apps or updates and the community will lose out.
     
  6. Crusatyr

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    I think it says a lot about the devs who are slimy enough to wait until there's a chance they could be paid for their projects rather than submitting them when done. I see it both ways though, you know as well as I do that month to create/test/ect an app is hella crunch time, especially when you see people requesting stuff like Kodi or rewriting the bluetooth stack to support bluetooth headphones.
     
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  8. Costello
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    they could still release a first version of their app initially, and then submit an update with added features for the bounty.
    that would just work.
     
  9. Technicmaster0

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    But they would get more points if they held the complete release back until the bounty begins.
     
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  10. Costello
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    not if they provide a major update. Judges have brains too ;)
     
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  11. blawar

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    Easier to not subject yourself to such an arbitrary determination and just not release. Programmers generally arent stupid :) There will probably be fallout if any developer fails this "major update" test.
     
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    just make something else other than the "major update" simples..... :P
     
  13. DollyWhipDoll

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    This is not at you, in particular, but a general homebrew statement.

    What I find "slimy" is the fact that many think these devs should work their azzes off and get nothing for it. Not even a Thank You. Constant gimme gimme gimme. Demanding, ungrateful, and entitled users behind a screen name. Never satisfied or appreciative, always wanting more. Meanwhile, these devs have houses, lives, jobs, wives, kids, multiple bills...but they are 'expected' to do thousands of lines of codes for FREE. Not just that, some want it RIGHT THIS INSTANT!

    A few devs may have a Patreon {and/or PayPal for a 1 time donation}, but it has $0-$1 in it. All while some users brag about having terabytes of games and multiple Switches.

    Cemu's got their following https://www.patreon.com/cemu. And, then there's that FP Switch scene...

    The stigma that homebrew devs, simply, MUST slave for the masses for free needs to be ANNIHILATED

    Good Luck to all the Devs entering these Bounties. I know some of you get excited to share things, but it may be wiser to keep some things to yourself until the time feels right to you. Keywords: To "YOU".
     
  14. Ev1l0rd

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    I just find the entire major update rule kinda uh... stupid?

    I get the idea is to prevent the same apps winning each year, but limiting any major updates to only this month just screams for people to wait to release their homebrew programs until December so they can enter it in the bounty.

    Expand the major update rule to simply be the full year, that seems much fairer imho. It'll prevent people from entering the same program each year without any major alterations while also not screwing with developers.

    Like, the "older apps only count with recent major updates" (and what even counts as recent? Since June? Since September? Since November? Hell, NX-Shell for example got the explicit notice that it's 1.0.0 release meant that only updates made to it in December would count) phrasing itself just feels muddy.

    All this makes sure is that Homebrew releases and updates will start to heavily scale towards Christmas as developers will feel less inclined to release it if it means they can't participate to your bounty and excludes potential entrants because they released their Software back in July. It's called the "Homebrew Bounty 2018", not the "Homebrew Bounty December 2018".

    Just my input on this admittedly arbitrary rule.
     
  15. Crusatyr

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    I think you misunderstood my intent. I can't change the attitude of the scene especially since the Switch is a "kiddie console" you get a lot of immature people who don't realize what coding entails. However, you should understand that for a lot of these devs that coding is a hobby, and hobbies are something you do for fun, not for profit.
     
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  17. Technicmaster0

    Technicmaster0 GBAtemp Psycho!

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    The devs have no obligation to release stuff when they are ready. It looks more like a situation "release it now and get fame" vs "release it a few days later, get the same fame and cash". They might even use the time to do a few finetunes.
     
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  18. Crusatyr

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    Devs are under no obligation to release anything at all, but the point of being a part of a scene is to advanced the scene. If you want cash, sell out to TX or some shit.
     
  19. Technicmaster0

    Technicmaster0 GBAtemp Psycho!

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    But it really doesn't make a difference from a dev perspective if you release your stuff one month earlier or later. It doesn't even matter for the people in the scene or the scene as a whole.
    Apart from that there are many reasons not to be a "part of the switch scene". Seriously, it's full of crap.

    /edit to make my point more clear:
    I can't think of a reason why a dev would release something to "advance the scene". It's simply no motivation for them to write homebrew.
     
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    This is sick!
     
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