HOLD IT!

[Foie]

There were no rules telling the host to start the match without the people present. We were present, and they should have had the decency to wait a little bit. Especially when one person cannot connect to another. They knew we were trying to play, and the failed to even ask us what our situation was. That is very poor communication, and a decent host would have done so.

 

[jumpman17]

There were no rules telling the host to start the match without the people present. We were present, and they should have had the decency to wait a little bit. Especially when one person cannot connect to another. They knew we were trying to play, and the failed to even ask us what our situation was. That is very poor communication, and a decent host would have done so.

And there are no rules saying they have to wait. You didn't specify how long you would be gone. They had no idea how long it may have taken you to fix your router. It could have taken all day.

 

[Foie]

I understand that. But a decent host would have at least asked me if I had it fixed yet. I was in the IRC room in between the time I was fixing the router... (using my neighbor's wifi) In the scheme of things, 10 minutes is very little time.

 

[Costello]

I have a feeling that this case is much deeper than you think.

There is a chance that *one* of the staffers established a conspiracy in order to get the first prize for himself. I heard Whitney was Jumpman's sister. Don't quote me on that.

 

[Neko]

I have a feeling that this case is much deeper than you think.

There is a chance that *one* of the staffers established a conspiracy in order to get the first prize for himself. I heard Whitney was Jumpman's sister. Don't quote me on that.

HEY !

Costello =

 

[Foie]

Hey, the big man showed up! While you're here, can you let me know what you think about the situation? It is your tournament after all.

 

[GeekShadow]

Objection ! I don't understand

 

[[M]artin]

And why would 754boy not enter FODA's friendcode? Why only 1? Why not all someone else's while he's at it?

artin,Sep 4 2007, 12:16 PM]

> He either did it intentionally, or he cant input a simple string of characters... V_V

If you don't believe the former perhaps you should believe the latter, either way, FODA's lack of participation in the tournament falls solely on the host's shoulders...

oshit, don't eat me Jumpman...

 

[Foie]

I propose an official GBAtemp Pheonix Wright case regarding this issue. Costello can be the judge, and [M] can be our defense attourney. FODA and I can be witnesses, it would be great

 

[jumpman17]

754boy has told me that the code he entered is correct. He has checked multiple times.

 

[[M]artin]

754boy has told me that the code he entered is correct. He has checked multiple times.

Then a "Host Has Not Added Your Friend Code" error shouldn't have been received! It's simple deduction really...

If FODA kept getting this error and he attempted to communicate with the participates in IRC, don't you think that one of them would've said something like "Oh, why are you getting that error? 754boy, why don't you check the code again?"

Of course not, they started the game (athought not very far into it, I presume) and felt they had a clear advantage in this round with two (three including the no-show) participates not in-game (as of that time) and proceeded to not respond to FODA until AFTER they finished their four games...

As for any doubt that 754boy would intentionally not have entered FODA's FC, consider the simple fact that FODA requested a "test room-joining" of sorts long before the match even began and 754boy glady declined! Keep in mind that FODA was the one who created the IRC room and was setup about an hour before the match... FODA instead gave his friend code out to others and attempted to join their rooms as a means of testing connectivity (same exact FC people...) and was successful! Why would 754boy decline such a simple request as to test connection to host's room, before the match even started?! I think the anwser is quite obvious here...

I still wub you Jumpy, I know you're hungwee, but plz don't bite me...

 

[Foie]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. The fact that FODA called for a connection test and the host declined tells me that he deserved to be in the match. He even went above and beyond what he was supposed to do. If anyone should have been in the match, it should have been him.

 

[jumpman17]

While we are making assumptions and "deductions", maybe FODA is lying and actually couldn't connect and is only saying that he got a host has not added you error.

Which by the way, if the host hasn't added you, you wouldn't see the room.

 

[Foie]

Actually, I think you could see the room, but just couldn't enter. We should test that.

 

[[M]artin]

We're actually testing this at the moment...

 

[[M]artin]

Through extensive testing and research, we have determined that whichever story is true (754boy adding FODA or not) there is no "Host-Does Not-Have-Your-Friend-Code" error that exsists...

Good game, Jumpy, good game...

T'was fun while it lasted...

 

[jumpman17]

artin @ Sep 4 2007, 04:47 PM)]Good game, Jumpy, good game...

T'was fun while it lasted...

They don't call me Cindy for nothing...oh...wait...

 

[Foie]

I'll be back in the next tourney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You wait and see.

I still got shafted though

 

[FODA]

Let me make my points now that my account isn't suspended anymore after the whole tournament has ended (thank you, jumpman and costello!)

The error was similar to this:
"Couldn't connect. Check if the host has added your FC and try again". If you do some hacking in the rom you'll find something on those lines there. Why don't I know the exact words on the message since, according to you, I "kept getting the error message"?
Because I saw the room, clicked it, then it goes to "connecting", then I got the error message. I clicked again, "connecting", but this time he closed the room. So I could only try to join ONCE, because the host started at 4:05 and disconnected from irc and wasn't on the forum. You're saying your rules back him up that he doesn't have to wait, so it is very good to be the host. Open the room at 4 pm sharp, 1 person joins and you start the game right there, oops too bad others couldn't join!

You don't see how wrong that is? I was eliminated from the tournament and I didn't fall on either of the two conditions for elimination:
1 - If the player doesn't show up for the match.
2 - If the player disconnects from the game after it has started.

This isn't just a matter of common sense, it is a matter of being fair, since there were no judges. But the host used no common sense or fairness at all, he tried to be strict about rules. That only gives the host of all games a huge advantage. In the next tournaments, if a player isn't the host he might as well just give up, because the rules say that the host doesn't have to wait even 10 seconds for him to join, so why bother with training, preparing and reserving your sunday night on this? Just give the prizes to the hosts and spare everyone's times.

 

[jumpman17]

1) I said PM if you wanted to continue to whine.

2) You never said that was the error you got. You said it said that the host didn't have you added (which isn't a real error message). All the error is above is that you had connection issues.

3) Keep whining on the forum and I'll ban your account.