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Discussion in 'General Gaming Discussion' started by soulx, Aug 5, 2012.
my man kamiya
I've had to clean the entire thread. Nobody freaking cares about who likes which console or what.
soulx has posted something Hideki Kamiya has said on Twitter - you can either deal with it and post a constructive comment - or just stay away from the thread entirely if you're just going to say the usual "lolsoulxhaetssony / lolguildhaetsnintendo". It's getting stale.
This is not USN, so this thread is not a mortal sin or something. Just food for thought and topic for discussion, which is PERFECTLY allowed.
One of those "if you don't like it, don't play it" type deals this is...
Voicing your disapproval that a company is developing a game that you believe to be a "rip-off" of another game is just silly in the age of CoD/Gears of War/Diablo/etc...
No idea who the guy is. Had to google him, and I still don't know who the hell he is.
He's worked on like 3 games worth mentioning...
Anyway, the whole outcry of this being a Smash Bros ripoff is so fucking annoying. Yeah, it's mashing Playstation allstars together to fight. Big freakin' whoop, mash ups like this happen all the time.
Just because it has a similar concept as Smash Bros doesn't mean it's identical. The game looks to play quite a bit different. The way you get kills, and just the way characters respond to dealing and taking damage in general is entirely different.
Also the stages all look really, really boring. (the stage themselves, the backgrounds are nice enough).
I doubt i'll get it, doesn't look that fun. But at the same time, I don't see the point in bitching and crying about the game for "copying" Smash Bros.
People should stop crying about it, they just look like a retarded Nintendo fanboy.
Tbh, as a dev, there are some things I'll keep my mouth close for. I wouldn't want it to bite me in the butt.
He's directed Viewtiful Joe, Bayonetta, Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry, Okami, Bayonetta.
I hope it'll be competition for Nintendo. The Super Smash Bros series has hardly had a worthy opponent ever since its release on the N64 and I hope this game will give Nintendo something to think about.
Will it do that? Probably not. Smash Bros has built up a huge fan base and there will always be those die hard fans who will bash the game and any one who plays it (or even mentions it)
everyone out the gate is calling it that >_> everyone already "knows" with out playing, but everyone who says it is still going to get it. An most likely enjoy it =/
Maybe he should get his name out there for it.
Bayonetta is so good, it has to be mentioned twice.
...and he worked on both games? What exactly is he saying here?
not that I really care...
SSB will still be better, PS All-Stars seems too Western for it's own good and an ok by not very appealing experimental gameplay showcase while SSB is perfect, not too Western and not too Japanese, the gameplay is fun and enjoyable despite inferior graphics to Sony systems, plus since it's Nintendo you have a much wider audience. While it doesn't suck, it doesn't appeal to me as anything special.
Here's the thing. Bayonetta is kinda a Devil May Cry rip off. Not that that's bad, but literally every reviewer showered it with praise for being Devil May Cry.
So what's the difference here? Yeah, it plays like SSB but it's not exactly the same. Combat is different, scoring is different, it just shares the concept of being a mash-up and a similar level layout. If anything they've been respectful to being acknowledged as SSB like. Here's one of their statements:
"I can’t blame people for using it. I totally understand where the comparisons come from. We’re fans of the brawler genre and fighting games at large. We understand that we’re taking some of the best things that have come before us and also adding something new to it. Our new core gameplay mechanic and the super system we feel are pretty original and offer something new to sort of the great tradition to brawlers and fighting games at large.
Show me the original game at E3 this year that borrows no elements from no game that has come before it."
It's a nice statement. They like the genre, they know they're similar, but it's also their own creation. He's not Gameloft. He's not Zynga. He's taking an idea and making it his own. It's called "inspiration".
The same thing is with Bayonetta. It's definitely inspired by DMC and everyone says it's almost a DMC in its own right. But since we've got a Sony brand name on this, it's instantly a shameless rip off made by scumbags who should burn in the deepest depths of hell.
I can see not taking interest in the game if maybe the characters don't appeal to you or you don't like the genre, but actively going out of your way to hate on it? That's shallow.
I don't think it'll be better than SSB, not at all, but I think it'll be a fun game and its about time we saw a crossover game for Sony franchises, and we got one that looks both appropriate and fun. But of course everyone needs to rain piss on the parade because they have nothing better to do.
Nobody has to right to complain about copying until copyrights get infringed.
Thats what they and their lawyers are there for.
The game has potential, it depends on how they pull off the important things: the fighting system, the character diversity and the one different thing that makes people remember the game.
This and LBPK will make party time with a PS3 that much more fun. And although im an xbox user, I look forward to playing both. And slyly wish Xbox would do their own,
How the hell do you rip off your own game?
It doesn't matter if he made it or not, it's basically Devil May Cry.
Also it's not like he was involved with the good Devil May Cry. DMC3 beats the shit out of the rest. He only did the first one, which is kinda average nowadays.
The King of Fighters and Marvel vs. Capcom came before Super Smash Bros...
So really SSB wasn't the first to the mash-up party
The reason people are complaining is that its a 4-character-on-screen mash up.
MVC and KOF are 1 on 1's and quite different so complaining about similarities between them and SSB would be retarded.
If it's your own creation, it's not the same at all.