Hacking Here's what we know about how Gateway works...

[2ndApex]

We have to wait for the decapping to be sure. The xbox also didn't use them at first...

Speaking of which, any news on how that was going? The money's been met but I haven't heard about it in ages.

 

[Ericthegreat]

If you're asking me, I know as much as the next guy (read: nothing). If neimod is right and GW's kernel exploit is patched in 4.5, I'd say maybe a year or two years before the next exploit and sooner if decrypted NAND dumps or RAM dumps are released to the public soon.

Wrong place I know, but the vita scene is just dead? Other then psp mode stuff I mean.

Speaking of which, any news on how that was going? The money's been met but I haven't heard about it in ages.

I have been wondering about this myself, its kinda weird that they haven't at least said that they sent the 3ds off....

I guess tho maybe if it turned up something useful maybe they wanna release something with the images?

 

[yifan_lu]

Wrong place I know, but the vita scene is just dead? Other then psp mode stuff I mean.



I have been wondering about this myself, its kinda weird that they haven't at least said that they sent the 3ds off....

I guess tho maybe if it turned up something useful maybe they wanna release something with the images?

The Vita scene lack skilled hackers like neimod; people who aren't afraid of hardware. I've done as much as I can; to get kernel mode, it's going to take a lot more (the vita has more security than 3DS and it is impossible to dump the RAM with hardware).

 

[jaouad]

Alright thanks. Sounds about right

 

[Queno138]

Here's something I've been wanting to test:

To my understanding, running a 3DS game in gateway mode will and exiting through home, will have the "save" dumped in the root of the SD cart.
I was wondering if it's the same for e-shop games.
(I don't have a GW3DS, but I used the "GW loader" on my DStwo)

Here's what I did:

1. Enter GW mode (all the steps, including DS profile name button press stack overflow thingy)
2. Loaded PokeDex 3D (the free version)
   The game loaded with all my pokemon intact
3. I exited through home.

What happened here is apparently,
My SD cart now has a save called 0004000000032600.sav

I'm curious to find out the following:

1. Are all the saves from the save game, have the same "save name"
2. Are saves from GW interchangeable amongst players (maybe it bypass encryption, who knows?)
3. Which save will my App read the next time (when operating in GW mode), the save in its original folder, or the GW save?

Cheers to all!

 

[Pong20302000]

Here's something I've been wanting to test:

To my understanding, running a 3DS game in gateway mode will and exiting through home, will have the "save" dumped in the root of the SD cart.
I was wondering if it's the same for e-shop games.
(I don't have a GW3DS, but I used the "GW loader" on my DStwo)

Here's what I did:

1. Enter GW mode (all the steps, including DS profile name button press stack overflow thingy)
2. Loaded PokeDex 3D (the free version)
   The game loaded with all my pokemon intact
3. I exited through home.

What happened here is apparently,
My SD cart now has a save called 0004000000032600.sav

I'm curious to find out the following:

1. Are all the saves from the save game, have the same "save name"
2. Are saves from GW interchangeable amongst players (maybe it bypass encryption, who knows?)
3. Which save will my App read the next time (when operating in GW mode), the save in its original folder, or the GW save?

Cheers to all!

the save name given is the game title ID

no one has tried save trading yet as not many people have a gateway in the same region lol

 

[Devin]

the save name given is the game title ID

no one has tried save trading yet as not many people have a gateway in the same region lol

Waiting to try that out. Someone on sonic here on the forums is from the US, and gets his tomorrow. So for now I must wait.

 

[Queno138]

the save name given is the game title ID

no one has tried save trading yet as not many people have a gateway in the same region lol

That I understand. I don't have my GW3DS yet as well..

I'm just surprised that a download 3DS app in GW mode also leaves saves.
(my mii plaza did not leave any saves, but my Pokedex 3D did.)

Maybe if apps leave saves, apps could one day be packaged as a 3DS rom and runs on GW? heheh

 

[Pong20302000]

That I understand. I don't have my GW3DS yet as well..

I'm just surprised that a download 3DS app in GW mode also leaves saves.
(my mii plaza did not leave any saves, but my Pokedex 3D did.)

Maybe if apps leave saves, apps could one day be packaged as a 3DS rom and runs on GW? heheh

its because the normal saving method is different in Gateway mode

 

[Queno138]

I've just tried something else which involves Pokemon Dream Radar app.

I do not know if the Dream Radar app saves can be traded amongst other 3DS,
but I know that you can backup your save and replay it afterwards (to recollect stuff, I've done it personally).

Furthermore, it uses the save ".sav" extension, which makes it perfect for my test:

1. Run in GW mode
2. Load PDR, and subsequently close the app.
3. Copy the 00040000000AE100.sav obtained and to replace my PDR 00000001.sav (the save was renamed to 00000001.sav so that PDR reads it)
4. Delete the 00040000000AE100.sav from Root.
5. Run PDR.

EDIT:Before this edit, I pasted over the wrong file in another folder.
This time I got the method right (plus let's include the fact that the folder is in the save name, which is 00040000>00AE100)

I could not swap the save with the 00000001.sav.
(Swapping caused the game to read the 0004000000AE100.sav that was renamed to 00000001.sav as corrupted)

This procedure enlightens me, that the saves are different.
(Might be decrypted ><)

2ND EDIT:
3DS app saves might be useless.
I got long chains of "FF", and "00", and "02".

Interested parties, do try it out for yourself

 

[Kane49]

This is probably the most interesting thread in the entire forum.

 

[Kupie]

RenegadeKid Lolwut? I'm confused at the picture. What's that got to do with those who can't use it with 6.x firmware? Why did you quote me again? Please elaborate why you posted the picture in response to my concerns.....




Can't really afford to spend that much money for a while, I just got a 3DS XL by trading in my regular 3DS (and paid the difference, but that system too wasn't 4.x.x), but I'll turn off the WiFi/internet connection and won't get any new games until the new versions are supported

Besides, there's no way to tell if it's 4.5.x before getting it.

BTW, why the crap did RenegadeKid quote what I said with a picture?

Edit: ninja'd

We have a whole thread on getting 3DS's that are 4.5 or lower. Copyright 2012? DONE AND BOUGHT! Worked for me very well.

 

[the_randomizer]

We have a whole thread on getting 3DS's that are 4.5 or lower. Copyright 2012? DONE AND BOUGHT! Worked for me very well.

Already well aware of that, I made this post a while back lol I haven't the funds to get one for a while.

 

[Kupie]

Already well aware of that, I made this post a while back lol I haven't the funds to get one for a while.

Oh dang! Sorry. Didn't even notice how old this thread is...

 

[the_randomizer]

Oh dang! Sorry. Didn't even notice how old this thread is...

No worries, crap happens. Besides, I've been focusing on other threads at the moment

 

[mr. fancypants]

dumb question but what does ROP mean anyway

 

[CalebW]

dumb question but what does ROP mean anyway

It means many many things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROP

 

[Kane49]

dumb question but what does ROP mean anyway

Dude, thats not a dumb question at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return-oriented_programming

This wont help you much if you are not into computer terminology though :/

It means many many things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROP

pretty sure he was asking about the ROP actually mentioned in this thread

 

[mr. fancypants]

thx well im dont know all hacking and computering coocepts and therms but the therm ROP is a well-known therm ( if i think cuz i heard it several times by now)

actually its a kind of the counterpar of NX

 

[williamcesar2]

I think neimod and his staff are behind the GW