I have three games that I started on real GBA carts some time ago Star Wars II : The Original Trilogy Banjo Kazooie : Grunties Revenge The Legend of Zelda : The Minish Cap I want to pull the saves off of the real carts and make a save file that I can put on my EZ IV flash card. to make things a bit easier I will try and list the hardware I have and maybe someone can point me in the right direction to get the saves off of the carts. I have a :- Nintendo DS lite , DS Phat, GBA Micro, GBA SP, Supercard mini SD ( Slot 2 ), EZ Flash IV (Slot 2 ), M3 Real with the GBA Expansion, R4, Flash 2 Advance USB Cable ( which can connect the GBA SP to the PC ), Action Replay GBX Max Drive, Official DS Memory Expansion that came with the browser... I have looked and looked through pages and pages of stuff on the web. Some programs look like thy can do the job but have very little documentation on ho to go about it, like sendsave and eepinator, maybe its just me being thick or just having a brain overload. Thanks for any help you can give.