i'm listing them in the order i think sounds better, so from "not a bad idea" to "is there any other way". 1. HardMod it and buy a SaveMii (though i'm not sure that'll work anymore since i upgraded to 4.0 then got bricked) 2. Send it to Nintendo and pretend i bought it second hand (i'm scared that wont work once they see the "backup loader" channel or they'd charge to much) 3. Wait for BootMii to come out though i could be waiting a while (please marcan, if your reading the topic, just let me know with a "i'd wait" or "lol no", not the actual release date! PLEASE.......sorry) 4. Take it to these guys who claim they can fix the brick by swapping the motherboard or something like that 5. ??? (anything i haven't suggested please post) please i want to make a decision but i'm stuck, especially since i dont know which will work and which wont. Keep in mind this is a FULL brick, all i get is black, not even an error or warning screen. i dont have Proloader installed cause likethe fool i am i used StartPatch4.0 thinking it was like starfall for 3.2 but its no where near as good. what pisses me off is i didn't even really care for the update, i never play VC or even WiiWare games anymore anyways so why would i care about putting them on an SD. but i was "bored" and though why not just update. yer, why not indeed.