Heal and Cure in Final Fantasy Games

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  1. Hebon
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    I love the Final Fantasy games. I know most of you do as well.
    But there is one thing that bothers me time and time again.

    Cure and Heal are reversed in meaning. Heal means Cure and Cure means Heal. Was this a translation error and just stuck, or do they really think that this is what it means?

    To most of you this is probably nothing, but to me, I can't stand it.

    How many of you feel the same?
     
  2. ShadowSoldier

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    What the hell do you mean?

    You mean they should mean the opposite and Heal gives you HP and cure fixes status ailments?
     
  3. Hebon
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    Yeah, that's exactly what I mean.
     
  4. Rydian

    Rydian Resident Furvert™

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    It used to be like that, but it got swapped at one point.

    I had a rant about this with the details on when and where it swapped (it was in the SNES era), but I can't remember right now which series started it.
     
  5. Slyakin

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    Ah.. Wha... Eh? I know that they swapped it, but they got rid of Heal entirely. It's now Esuna.

    I like it this way though. Cure, Cura, Curaga, Curaja. Esuna. Esunaga (I think). Good enough. [​IMG]
     
  6. Hebon
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    I thought it was like this in the beginning? Since the very first FF.
     
  7. Slyakin

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    I thought that, in the first game, Heal cured the whole party for a small amount of HP?
     
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    Prolly something like "All your bases are belong to us" happened with those two.
     
  9. Rydian

    Rydian Resident Furvert™

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    Yeah it was a translation issue at first, then it got swapped, then swapped back and they kept it.
     
  10. Nimbus

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    Probably being lazy.

    Aren't translation issues wonderful!?

    I still refer to it by it's old name once in awhile, Heal=Esuana Cure=Cure.
     
  11. Ammako

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    Aren't translations of the Japanese games better?
    The RPGOne translation of Final Fantasy VI is way better than the official translation (FFIII), IMO.
    Just because the game companies didn't seem to care that much about translation back then. An example being the very first LoZ. And Chrono Trigger.
     
  12. machomuu

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    Meet Final Fantasy XIII.
     
  13. Goli

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    The only FF game with "Heal" is Final Fantasy I.
    That's it. And it's not a mistranslation.
    Other games did have "Esuna" has "Heal" but it's been since fixed in re-translated re-releases.
    As for Cure, it's not a mistranslation either since it's ??? (kearu).
    I don't know what the majority of the people here are talking about mistranslations, at least when it comes to these two abilities, currently. [​IMG]
     
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    I hate the word Esuna. I always forget what it means. It should just be like recovery or something. Esuna sounds so frickin gay.
     
  15. doyama

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    Screw that. How did stupid Americans decide that O was CANCEL and X was ACCEPT? That's just stupid [​IMG]
     
  16. Rydian

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    Breath Of Fire 2.
     
  17. Fel

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    So close and yet so far away.
    Actually I like the word, it's so different from all the normal names like Heal, Cure, Recover and so on. It adds to the charm.

    I think I also had problems with the wording at first but I got used to it. But there you go, Japanese love to use foreign words and sometimes even completely change their meaning. Those who watch anime know what I'm talking about. For example in Naruto where they call the energy which flows through the body "chakra". In sanskrt and all those Indian mystical arts where the word comes from it means actually the nodes in which the energy is created, while energy itself has a different term (prana), so it's annoying. It's like saying "volcano" instead of "lava".
     
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    Every single Japanese version of FF always had cure (???/ke-a-ru; it's actually supposed to be ???/kyu-a but I guess Square stuck with it) as healing HP and Esuna (???/e-su-na) as healing ailments. Esuna stands for ??????????? (Ei-kyu (permanent), Sutetasu (status), Naosu (heal)). I'm not sure as to why they switched from 'heal' to 'esuna'
     
  19. choconado

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    It's just a carry over from the Nintendo "B=cancel, A=Accept" weirdness. (the weirdness being the order of B and A on the controller, for the record)
     
  20. Nimbus

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    Probably being lazy.
    Hey, at least Chrono Trigger still had a reasonably funny translation that was still usable back then. I still kinda prefer it over the new one, if even just for Frog/Glenn's "YE OLD FREAKING ENGLISH" dialog.