I can't seem to figure out how to get brawl to work with NeoGamma R7. I have been doing some reading and I believe that CIOS38 rev14 is to blame. Brawl will freeze and give me the error at certain points (beat kirby in SSE, beat classic mode, etc.): An error has occured. Press the Eject BUtton, remove the Game Disc, and turn the power off. Please read the Wii Operations Manual for more information. My legit copy works 100%. I also see this issue on the DVD5 version of brawl I looked around and I believe the solution to this is to load brawl through a USB loader and have that use Hermes 222, but Hermes 222 only works for USB launchers and doesn't have disc support. Unfortunately for me a USB loader is not an option. Here is how I modded my wii: http://yafaze.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=145 http://my.afterdawn.com/larrylje_redwings/..._entry.cfm/3810 I used the DVD backup app (that streams it to your pc) to make the backup, following this guide to burn: http://www.gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=91738 So my question is: Has anyone got brawl to work with NeoGamma, which CIOS do I need to use? Can I install it as a separate IOS, or will I need to downgrade my existing CIOS38 rev14 (and just upgrade it whenever I feel like playing a newer game which requires it?). Further, I should add that I've installed CIOS38 rev13 and I still get the same issue, except instead of the green screen with the error message I mentiond above, I just get a black screen. Which version of CIOS is best to install (I hear a lot of complaints about certain versions)? I noticed the compatibility sticky says to use cIOS rev8 or higher. Are they refering to CIOS38? Thanks.