Happy International Day Against Homophobia and Transphobia Day!

[Aurora Wright]

It's about forcing other adults (Christian bakers) to violate their conscience or be fined hundreds of thousands of dollars, [...] If you support "consenting adults" being allowed to do as they please, then you have to support privately owned businesses refusing service to those they morally disagree with,

If you support "conscientious objection" for one reason, you have to support it for ALL reasons (or else, it's called a "privilege"). So let's see, I can refuse service to you because you're black, or because you have a different political orientation, or just because I find you unpleasant. And I think you realize that this would have our whole society go downhill...

it's about letting mentally ill adult men into small, private spaces with women and young girls. [...] and allowing them the right to require biological men to use the men's room. Otherwise you're dishonest and hypocritical.

I suppose you're aware about how "gender dysphoria" is not a mental illness, there is evidence about how not recognizing yourself in your birth sex happens, and the fact alone isn't an issue. The issue is the discomfort that arises from it (and this discomfort is fueled by people like you). (But I was forgetting there's a conspiracy going on with the psychiatric/psychological associations and the studies!!111! right?)
If your argument is about non-trans people pretending to be trans to go in bathrooms, show me actual statistics that show that it IS an issue and that it HAS happened (and these stats better be significant).

 

[spotanjo3]

I am supporting Gay, Transsexual, and Lesbian. I dont supported Bisexuals. No offense, bisexuals.

 

[Seriel]

We shouldn't need just one day for people to be treated with respect. Respect should be a normal thing, regardless of gender, sex, race, religion, disability, sexuality, ect. People should be treated like people everyday of the year.

^This. This. 100% this.

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I am supporting Gay, Transsexual, and Lesbian. I dont supported Bisexuals. No offense, bisexuals.

wth

 

[MichiS97]

I am supporting Gay, Transsexual, and Lesbian. I dont supported Bisexuals. No offense, bisexuals.

and why is that?

 

[BurningDesire]

I love how this thread picks up a few days after the actual day.

 

[astronautlevel]

I am supporting Gay, Transsexual, and Lesbian. I dont supported Bisexuals. No offense, bisexuals.

Decided to dirty up my posting history with something not 3ds hacking related to tell you you're retarded.

 

[Davidosky99]

I am supporting Gay, Transsexual, and Lesbian. I dont supported Bisexuals. No offense, bisexuals.

Why is that? Are you retarded? You support gays but not support bisexuals? Your concept of a bisexual must be very wrong IMO

 

[BORTZ]

Keep it on topic and civil or I close the thread.

 

[Justinde75]

Keep it on topic and civil or I close the thread.

Admin gets angry haha
But my opinion on the whole thing is (if someone even cares that is ) Everyone should have the freedom to live thier live how they want to live it. Nobody has the right to say how somebody should live thier own live. As long as it doesn't hurt you, you should let them do what they want. Its just pathetic that some people think that they can judge somebody just because of thier sexuality, religion, gender etc. How would you feel if a gay man would insult you just because you are straight. It makes no sense. But its important to respect other opinions as well, as long as they respect yours that is. But the important thing is that all humans are STILL humans, alot of people forget that. Its quite sad. So if you feel comfortable with your sexuality, gender, religion : Be proud! Be proud of you and that you're different!

 

[Haloman800]

If you support "conscientious objection" for one reason, you have to support it for ALL reasons (or else, it's called a "privilege"). So let's see, I can refuse service to you because you're black, or because you have a different political orientation, or just because I find you unpleasant.

Let's say a homeless man comes up to your house and decides he wants to live in your spare bedroom, do you have a right to refuse him? What if you aren't using the spare bedroom? The answer is, yes, you absolutely have a right to refuse entry to anyone on your own private property; to suggest otherwise says you don't really own your property, everyone has equal access to it (literally communism).

I suppose you're aware about how "gender dysphoria" is not a mental illness

Not according to the American Psychiatric Association, http://www.dsm5.org/documents/gender dysphoria fact sheet.pdf

I'm not going to reply further, as I don't want to get banned for hate-facts.

 

[0x40]

I suppose you're aware about how "gender dysphoria" is not a mental illness,

Bullshit. Gender dysphoria is factually a mental illness, and is classified as such by its medical definition, both by WHO and APA.

 

[VinsCool]

Stop these pointless arguments guys. Just let people live their lives and be happy

 

[Aurora Wright]

Let's say a homeless man comes up to your house and decides he wants to live in your spare bedroom, do you have a right to refuse him? What if you aren't using the spare bedroom? The answer is, yes, you absolutely have a right to refuse entry to anyone on your own private property; to suggest otherwise says you don't really own your property, everyone has equal access to it (literally communism).

This is not the same. We are talking about offering services. If you have an hotel and you only accept people you want then yes, it's as I said. Living in your own house is not a service you're offering to anyone and thus isn't a valid example.

Not according to the American Psychiatric Association, http://www.dsm5.org/documents/gender dysphoria fact sheet.pdf

I'm not going to reply further, as I don't want to get banned for hate-facts.

The issue is the discomfort that arises from it (and this discomfort is fueled by people like you).

And I add: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-beyer/the-end-of-transgender-as-a-mental-illness_b_2238147.html .

Bullshit. Gender dysphoria is factually a mental illness, and is classified as such by its medical definition, both by WHO and APA.

Being trans is no longer a "mental illness" per-se. Just the discomfort that comes from it is an illness, in DSM-5, with transition being the solution (a trans person who is happy with themselves isn't "ill"). Then I don't like this either, but it's another story.

 

[KingpinSlim]

Discussing things related to acceptance of others on GBAtemp?
Yeah... No idea who thought that was a good idea, when people are already willing to kill each other when discussing video-game consoles.

also this:

 

[Seriel]

Look. By arguing about this loads, and making special days and stuff, you're just drawing more attention to this, which doesn't help these people live their lives in peace. Just leave it. Accept everyone for for they want to be and don't bother arguing, just... leave it.

 

[Aurora Wright]

Look. By arguing about this loads, and making special days and stuff, you're just drawing more attention to this, which doesn't help these people live their lives in peace. Just leave it. Accept everyone for for they want to be and don't bother arguing, just... leave it.

Visibility is needed because people still get kicked out of their homes or commit suicide. By treating these topics as taboos, you favor people like Haloman800 above

 

[Seriel]

Visibility is needed because people still get kicked out of their homes or commit suicide. By treating these topics as taboos, you favor people like Haloman800 above

Eep, i'm not the best with words.
I'm just gonna leave now.

 

[0x40]

This is not the same. We are talking about offering services. If you have an hotel and you only accept people you want then yes, it's as I said. Living in your own house is not a service you're offering to anyone and thus isn't a valid example.


And I add: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dana-beyer/the-end-of-transgender-as-a-mental-illness_b_2238147.html .

And now you're changing your argument... Gender dysphoria is still a mental illness, transgender is not and nobody is arguing that it is.

 

[VinsCool]

Stop these pointless arguments guys. Just let people live their lives and be happy

 

[Aurora Wright]

And now you're changing your argument... Gender dysphoria is still a mental illness, transgender is not and nobody is arguing that it is.

"Gender dysphoria" is the discomfort that comes from being transgender. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria "the term gender dysphoria applies only to the discontent experienced by some persons resulting from gender identity issues." And the terms "mental disorder", contrary to what people seem to believe, aren't per-se negative, they just indicate a distress that someone experiences.
That said, I don't agree myself with it being in the DSM, because as most people see "disorder" in a negative way, it just contributes to stigma, plus that distress can also have (partially or fully) social origins and I don't believe it's right to "shift the focus" on the distressed people, it's society that needs to change. It'll almost certainly go away in the next revision though