HANS and JKSV not working for ORAS on 11.1?

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  1. KibaLight
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    I tried to use HANS or JKSV with Pokemon ORAS on 11.1 (no CFW) trough homebrew launcher normally and it freezes on yellow screen. But it doesn't happen with other games I tried (MHGen, Zelda Link Between Worlds, Pokemon SMD). :mellow:
     
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    I believe ASLR was implemented for ORAS in 11.1.
     
  4. configchan

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    Correct. This requires an update to the HBL's targeted launcher payloads, AFAIK.
     
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  5. Xiphiidae

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    I'm not sure if ASLR can be circumvented for the use of apps like JKSV without CFW.

    I'd love to be proven wrong on this though.
     
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  6. nl255

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    Not that it applies to the OP, but doesn't Luma disable ASLR?
     
  7. configchan

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    They can't be circumvented by HBL apps, since the issue occurs before the apps are even run, but I see no reason to believe the payloads can't be changed to compensate for it. What would they need that they don't evidently already have as needed to change the exploits to work from within ASLR games?

    And, yes, Luma disables ASLR, so this only really applies to those of us stuck in userland.
     
  8. Xiphiidae

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    It does.

    If you're saying what I think you're saying, then I believe that's true, and could be done to have basehaxx work on 11.1 (if installed from a pre-11.1 3DS or one with CFW), but I think won't be able to help those who simply want to edit ORAS save files on 11.1 userland.
     
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    Yeah, but just about everything of a similar nature is of no help to the end user until someone actually implements it. Hopefully, since more games use ASLR now, and more to come, that gives enough reason for yellows8 and smea to update the HBL to let it work with such games.
     
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    Everyone should stay on 11.0 until stuff gets addressed properly. There is no reason to update to 11.1, so restore a 11.0 and wait.
     
  11. Oyomar18

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    Sorry for being a noob, but how do you restore 11.0?
     
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    Since you don"t have CFW you can only downgrade the NATIVE_FIRM with DSiWareHaxx I think.
     
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    If you have A9LH installed using a CFW you can use Decrypt9/Hourglass to restore a nand backup.
     
  14. Lilith Valentine

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    If you don't have a CFW, you are pretty much screwed, unless you want to try a DSi downgrade
    https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/Firmware-Downgrade
    The moral of the story, don't update if you want to keep your homebrew and always do research before updating. Seriously, no update from here on out is going to be worth is, the 3DS is reaching it's EOL and Nintendo is just going to try and patch out Homebrews from here on out. Updating nowadays without waiting is just foolish.
     
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    A thousand times this. It's sad how many people don't know about ctr-httpwn.
     
  16. Oyomar18

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    This looks like a lot of work. And yeah, unfortunately I am new to the modding scene so I didn't know those things. :(

    Here's to hoping homebrew will be fixed soon in order to restore the save manager functionality... :(
     
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    Don't worry too much about it. Homebrew devs are normally pretty fast and exploits are popping up left and right.
    Just remember to do some research next time before you agree to the update. We always post the latest news on the main page and it's always up to date on the do's and don't's when it comes down homebrews and updates.
     
  18. Oyomar18

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    Got it, thank you very much! That makes me feel a bit relieved. The reason I updated is because they mentioned steelhax works with the new firmware, but they never mentioned any issues with the save managers and all. I will keep what you said in mind. For now, all I can do is wait. :)
     
  19. JazzCat.CL

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    Same problem here! with japanese cart and jap new 3ds 11.1.34
     
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