GBAtemp E3 presentation writeups 2011- Xbox 360

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  1. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

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    Nov 21, 2005
    United Kingdom
    <h1>GBAtemp E3 presentation writeups 2011- Xbox 360</h1>

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    <p align=" " class="none">Today is the start of E3 and with it is the start of the GBAtemp coverage of E3.

    Microsoft had a presentation a couple of hours back and this is writeup of it. For those new to E3 then you should know E3 was and in many respects still is the biggest trade show for computer games and related media. Companies big and small gather to show new hardware, games and talk both business (acquisitions, new partnerships and what have you) and numbers (consoles/games sold) with many of the big companies in either hardware or publishing holding presentations/ “media briefings” to showcase their respective companies.</p>

    <h1>The writeup</h1>

    <p align=" " class="none">Compared to some years past Microsoft managed to more or less stow sales numbers of the 360, the slim, kinect, xbox live and the like but if you have seen one of these you have seen them all; regardless of what place in sales volumes or profits the company might sit they talk up aspects to make it seem like they are leading a field. You are invited to peruse investor reports and weekly sales data if you like that sort of thing. Instead kinect was the theme of the show and the entire presentation was about the xbox with no mention of windows live or PC games developments.</p>

    <h2>Announcements of partnerships, new companies.......</h2>
    <p align=" " class="none">No new hardware this year but a few other interesting things.
    Last year kinect and xbox live were pegged as paving the way for a multimedia console supporting games, movies, music and beyond. Today was another promise although this one appeared to have something resembling timeframe for it.

    Words like simple technology, natural, intuitively and so forth were thrown around with the obvious uniting theme being kinect.

    Apparently the number of partnerships is to be increased “by a factor of 10” which probably brings it in line with a modern pub jukebox or a well stocked music player but licensing is a tricky game so that is no mean feat.

    Alongside this bing driven voice control was featured prominently with the playback features of previous years gaining a mixture of IMDB and what we all want a good streaming site to be. The question of voice training did arise (traditionally voice recognition then and assuming you stick in the low end arena today has been less than brilliant (read workable)).

    <p align=" " class="none">Youtube seems to be arriving although what this ultimately means (flash on the 360, HTML5, youtube with silverlight support, pausing a game to watch a video.....) is left for others to debate. Granted anything with a web browser (like for instance the other two consoles) can probably lay claim to this but many will tell you such things are sketchy at best so being touted as a feature hopefully means some decent support.

    Continuing with video Live TV was apparently to be added which is interesting and partnerships with Sky in the UK, Canal in France and some of the Australian networks being name dropped as partners in this venture.

    UFC also got featured and apparently joins the ranks of the live streaming.
    The demo video showed stats lookup, features similar to those that have used a digital TV before. Betting “for fun” presumably among other friends being featured. Pretty much a be your own commentator mode.

    ESPN although brought in last year seemed to be reaffirmed.</p>

    <h2>New games</h2>
    <p align=" " class="none">Obviously E3 is about the games when it comes down to it and despite a somewhat underwhelming crop (assuming you can take or leave FPS games and kinect does not interest you all that much).</p>

    <b>Normal 360</b>
    <p align=" " class="none">The presentation opened with a playthrough of a level in <b>modern warfare 3</b>. Being a playthrough it perhaps lacked the punch of the video a couple of weeks back and the term “modern warfare greatest hits” might have been used.
    Still it showcased an underwater infiltration (those wishing to recreate Thunderball will probably have to wait a little bit longer or find a mod) leading to a submarine assault ending with a dingy escape.
    Nov 8th is the supposed release date and the DLC for the game is said to hit xbox live first.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none">Some gameplay footage of the upcoming <b>Tomb Raider- Origins</b> was shown.
    The footage was taken from the start of the game and showcased a somewhat unfamiliar character (that is to say one displaying a fair amount of weakness and/or uncertainty). It also seemed the “dark and gritty” bug that has blighted films and comics has well and truly appeared in games now. Whether it is a welcome addition or not is up for debate but a hint system of a sort has been added but other than that it appears to be the usual physics driven platformer with quick time events. It did have a fairly nice lighting engine though.
    Autumn 2012 is the release date meaning we will probably see more next year.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none">EA sports was next up with Peter Moore mentioning four games from the sports division having kinect support (kinect was probably the main theme of this show but more on that later).

    <b>Tiger Woods PGA tour</b>
    <b>Madden NFL</b>
    <b>FIFA </b>(more in the EA presentation later)
    “one for later” (whether this will be the presentation on about the time you are reading this or later in the week remains to be seen- before the EA section was over we were promised more in the EA press briefing and more throughout the week.). *update from EA presentation- this might be a new <b>SSX</b> game.

    <b>Sims 3 pets</b> and <b>Family Game night 4</b> also feature a measure of kinect support but nothing was really shown.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none">Next it was the turn of <b>Mass Effect 3</b> to be paraded around.

    Apparently this will be a “brand new adventure” as opposed to really following on from the last two games.
    Close quarters appeared to be added in more than it was in previous titles and there was a powersuit that screamed starship troopers but other than that the time was spent on the kinect features.
    Kinect features included
    voice recognition- where you get to make choices you get to say the option.
    kinect strategy commands- here you get to issue strategy commands like move up or order biotics (seemingly by name) with your voice.
    There was the question of whether this would be kinect only or maybe using a headset but time will tell on that one. Debate as to how useful this might be (radial menus in the likes of operation flashpoint did a lot to alleviate the fumble with the dpad approach that has long dogged such games) is left for others.
    Update from EA presentation
    The galactic war thing the previous titles have been leading to is apparently here with the reapers (a race of robots) being the enemy and it being set on Earth.
    6th March 2012 is the release date and choices from previous titles carry over apparently.

    Gameplay seems to be a lot of the same from before although the EA demo showed a nice mounted gun section.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none">Ubisoft took the stage with <b>Ghost recon future soldier</b> which you probably saw in a previous e3 seems to have got a lot more polish since last time.
    Kinect features time once again
    Customise weapons via kinect by both voice and gestures. They seemed to be doing their best to get their [insert relevant sci fi film] on as well.
    Alongside this some pre defined commands for various setups with at least- short (range), (long) range and “random” being showcased.
    They seemed to take a leaf out of Borderland's book as well and offer loads of parts.

    It also seemed to be one of the first “proper” demonstrations of kinect weapon controls but lacking a eye camera how good it is will only be speculation.

    All future Tom Clancy games were promised to feature a measure of kinect support as well.

    Kinect, kinect, kinect if the drum was not already being banged hard enough with mentions of ubisofts attempts at sports and fitness games being mentioned.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none">About 40 minutes in (to a presentation lasting about one and a half hours) it was “360 exclusives from here on in” which only added the sense of deja vu.
    On the matter of Kinect; last year kinect took the latter part of the show and since then it sold a lot of units but games wise nothing has really happened which is something this E3 aims to show having changed.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>Gears of War 3</b> appeared to the backing of War Pigs by Black Sabbath (ich bin ein berliner moment or if we are continuing with the music theme a Born in the U.S.A. moment or not is left to others to debate).
    An on stage “co-op demo” set on boat (albeit one appearing somewhat like an oil platform) against a giant monster was the order of the day.
    Story wise it appears to be set 2 years after the events of Gears of War 2 with the infection from end of that game forming a focal point at least of that level.
    A mech suit was seen and presumably it will be playable but it was not seen in the demo.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>Ryse</b>
    Somewhat unexpected this game is set against a revolution of a sort in ancient Rome.
    Almost certainly a Kinect only title it appeared to be the sword and shield and CQB (albeit with throwing knives) that kinect might have been said to promise the less cynical/pessimistic among us might have hoped for.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>Halo- Combat evolved anniversary edition</b>.
    We were told “Halo changed the way we play video games” and so we are due for a remake of the first halo game. Retextures and the like galore along with xbox live co-op.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>Forza 4</b>
    If deja vu had not set in yet this pushed people over the edge. No footage was really shown which is odd for a game set to be release on October 11th.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>Fable- the journey</b>.
    The newest chapter in the fable series and shockingly somebody actually managed to keep Peter Molyneux on a leash for once and thus denied him the chance to make promises that ultimately (inevitably?) fall flat.

    Still kinect features
    A horse and carriage chase sequence.
    First person gesture magic was showcased which could be very interesting if done properly.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>Minecraft</b> is apparently to appear in some fashion on the 360 and ending the show was a teaser for <b>Halo 4</b> coming “Holiday 2012”.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>kinect disneyland</b>.
    Now you can enjoy the disneyland rides virtually.
    Someone might have used the term disney themed raving rabbids which does not sound good to our ear (wacky humour and disney not being the closest friends).</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>Kinect star wars</b>
    Last year showed a nice tech demo but otherwise got laughed at. Should one be able to overlook the near complete lack of textures this was better.
    On foot sections, speeder sections (whether pod racer grade or not remains to be seen), ship combat in what looked to be rail/star fox type arrangement rather than some of the Rogue squadron stuff.
    The on foot sections had lightsabers although whether it was lag or capture issues it could have been better. It looks like it might one of the closest things to a lightsaber game yet though.
    Story wise it appeared to be a film tie in to the new franchise in places with secondary characters doing “while the film was happening” type things.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>Sesame Street- Once upon a monster</b>.
    Double fine- they of Psychonauts and Brütal Legend are making a Sesame street game.
    Largely seems to be Kinect minigames (with a nice menu) although the characteristic art design of double fine was present.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none"><b>Kinect sports- season 2</b>
    Skiing (downhill racing was shown)
    American football
    Cries of Wii clone were heard from all around.

    Two games were demoed with voice in golf being shown and the expected body capture control known here as “full body gestures”. American football was shown and not much to say but the amusing GIF collection will probably grow before the day is out.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none">Harmonix appeared and <b>Dance central</b> was showcased and the ability to import tracks from the first and a lot of tracks being available. Speaks to their licensing lawyers more than any technical feat but tracks are tracks.
    Also the comment on amusing GIF images might have been premature although it might not top last year without the aid of some overcranking.</p>

    <p align=" " class="none">Rounding out this thread although not the E3 presentation was <b>Kinect fun labs</b> and assorted other kinect related features.
    If you just barely followed the kinect hacking you probably saw some amazing things.
    - promises internet grade messing around via SDK.
    Avatar capture (a skin was made from photos)
    “Finger tracking” (although this looked like more or a gesture with hands).
    Object scanning (probably not engineering grade
    Released today</p>

    Over to you guys to discuss.
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  2. yuyuyup

    yuyuyup GBAtemp Psycho!

    Apr 30, 2006
    United States
    USA MTN timezone
    I'm no anti-MS fanboy, but that conference was worse than last year. That starwars crap once again screams ON-RAILS, seems waggletastic. I don't have enough experience with a kinect, but it seems extremely laggy for $150.
  3. Devin

    Devin "Local Hardware Wizard"

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    Aug 17, 2009
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    The Nexus
    Tried out the Kinect FunLabs. Pretty cool, I turned my Shadow Plushy into a character, and I made a avatar of myself using the "Avatar Maker". Overall, a nice little application. Can't wait to see this implemented into other games.
  4. Tonitonichopchop

    Tonitonichopchop GBAtemp Maniac

    Dec 9, 2009
    United States
    I have to agree with the majority. This is one of the worst conferences I've seen in years. I sold my 360 a few months ago, and I can't say I regret it.
  5. Guild McCommunist

    Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    May 6, 2009
    United States
    The Danger Zone
    I agree, that shit looks bad. Just really lame gameplay with very little depth. I mean we saw an epic trailer for The Old Republic (I'm not too psyched for the game but the trailer looked awesome) and we get this lame piece of shit to help ruin it.
  6. Hadrian

    Hadrian Better than Craigslist

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    Oct 12, 2004
    It could have been worse but a lot of the the stuff they showed was clearly not of much interest for those who tune into E3.
  7. SamAsh07

    SamAsh07 GBAtemp Addict

    Jan 27, 2009
    Bosnia and Herzegovina
    It was good overall, however, EA was great apart from NFS The Run -_- Now we are heading towards Drivers path?? Get out of car.....seriously??

    To me the highlight of MS conference was Tomb Raider and Mass Effect 3 with VR.

    Note:- No one can bring back NFS to proper path, only Criterion Games can (NFS HP proof). They know how to make racing games.
  8. Costello

    Costello Headmaster

    Oct 24, 2002
    completely agree with that.
    I didn't watch the conference, but reading FAST's write up it seems I didnt miss anything!
    thanks FAST9161 for the write up! saves me watching the recorded conference [​IMG]
  9. Snailface

    Snailface My frothing demand for 3ds homebrew is increasing

    Sep 20, 2010
    Engine Room with Cyan, watching him learn.
    At one point, I believe, Microsoft was considering putting a processor in the Kinect to help out with reading sensor input, but they opted to leave it out to save cost on the unit. They reasoned that the 360 CPU was enough to handle the task. I seems, in retrospect, this was a bad idea.
  10. machomuu

    machomuu Drops by occasionally

    Sep 4, 2009
    United States
    The Courtroom
    I'm excited for the Halo 1 remake and maybe possibly Minecraft or GoW 3.
  11. CarbonX13

    CarbonX13 GBAtemp 台灣人

    Aug 27, 2010
    Vancouver, B.C.
    Not a particularly great conference. Kinect being thrown at almost everything in the software line-up doesn't help. Modern Warfare 3, as expected, looks like a rehash of its predecessors.