1. aadz93

    OP aadz93 GBAtemp Official Psychonaut
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    why did you not make an emunand like i've stated multiple times?

    if you install this to sysnand, you'll need an ntrboot cartridge and a nand backup, iirc running gateway on sysnand will overwrite b9s it will also need to be reinstalled, ntrboot can do that aswell
     
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    Also, remove the sd card, if it still displays the same error, then you'll need ntrboot
     
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    He can always do crtnand trasfer
     
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    thx for all helpful suggestion. i will try remove the sd card and see. otherwise will try the ntrboot suggestion. initially i was thinking once u load gateway, u can create emunand.
     
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    Create emunand first after installing b9s, you can do this in godmode9, installing to sysnand is risking a softbrick, emunand protects your console by using your sd card as your nand and not the internal nand! It's much easier to reformat your sd card.....

    Yeah you'll need ctrnand transfer or a nand backup, once you install luma and b9s make a nand backup, this + ntrboot will let restore the system with luma and b9s intact

    Since it was installed to your sysnand, once you boot gateway on sysnand it wipes b9s and luma iirc (this has been a known issue), there's a reason emunand is in the title not sysnand, since you now have a Frankensysnand with no b9s the 3ds doesn't know what to boot
     
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    i could be wrong, but since you've updated already, can you not just reformat your 3ds and start over?
    (b9s would still be there after the format i think, so you can continue the guide from there?)
     
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    I remember reading that if you boot into gateway mode is on b9s sysnand, it will overwrite b9s, that and above 9.2 gateway supports emunand only, which isn't a problem normally because we have a bootrom exploit (b9s/ntrboot), meaning homebrew execution is gained at startup, and it cannot patched, so you can update your console with out losing b9s using the regular system update in system settings,once b9s is installed,


    we are using b9s to create and setup up an emunand that is "gateway compatible" because after 11.2 they added anti gateway code into some system modules iirc, so we create a 11.13 emunand, and downgrade only the files that have been changed to block gateway back to 11.2. if you don't patch the emunand gateway will just black screen after the splash displays,

    I'm using v 4.2 (3.7.2?) launcher dat, this version only boots into emunand (it'll autodetect the gw emunand and boot into it, I know because my sysnand is still on 11.12, emunand is 11.13, I updated the emunand in luma, run the normal system update and reran sysupdater in luma everytime I updated the emunand), if you use luma and bootctr9 you can boot luma into sysnand, do the system settings trick and boot into gateway in emunand

    We are using b9s (or fastboot3ds) to boot a firm payload which executes the gateway launcher.dat on the sd card

    Instead of booting into luma it's loads bootctr9 which let's boot gateway instead (...luma chainloader will not boot the gateway firm payload on its own...)
    Chain loading via luma and bootctr9 allows for dual booting or hotswapping via system settings

    You can use fastboot3ds and instantboot gateway at power on, or I hold a while powering to boot luma sysnand, using fastboot3ds eliminates using bootctr9 and does cut boot time by about half, but you can't use the system settings trick, you'll simply reboot back to gateway or luma (whichever you choose at initial power on), you have power off and reboot into fastboot3ds to select


    Gateway is a cfw
    Luma is open source cfw

    They're both cfw, and both do the same things, one just has a bad rep, though people forget about top toy ds (dstt) did effectively the same...
     
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    Well, it's not clear if this guy even made emunand, so i'm guessing no.

    If what I'm understanding is correct, it should be possible to 'fix' his 3ds by reverting this 3ds to a vanilla state, redo the entire setup (since you mentioned gw mode kills b9s).
    Once luma3d and b9s is installed and working properly, boot into godmode9, create emunand.
    Once you're in luma3d emunand, install the gateway update files via sysupdater.
    Put back the payload files for gateway on the 3ds sdcard and boot into emunand.

    (basically, it might be easier for him to nuke and start over rather than try fixing the modifications he's done now since it's not clear what he's done)
     
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    That's why the first after installing b9s and luma make a full sysnand backup (that way if you use ntr boot with godmode9 it'll also restore b9s and luma aswell) if he doesn't have a nand backup he will have to ctrtransfer which pretty much nukes it
     
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    thx guys for your input. i originally thought all was done via lumacfw will be safe as much as in emunand. i was wrong in this case and make a big mistake. i can boot to godmode9 and boot gateway sysnand. but obviously like all you said i probably have turn my sysnand to frankensysnand. i did try took the sd card out and boot, get the same error.
    i will do the ntrboot later and see how it goes with my original nandbackup.
     
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    "I can boot into GodMode9" means you won't need ntrboot since B9S was NOT overwritten.

    Please backup SysNAND now (even if bricked) and store the image in a secure location. Don't delete anything. "Format System Memory", "Wiping SD", "Start over", "Start from scratch" and whatever the strange "Let's delete everything"-idea is called will do no good and can cause further problems.
    Better way to express this (about "Factory Reset"):
    https://gbatemp.net/threads/help-ne...unfinished-cfw-installed.570530/#post-9143655


    After backing up SysNAND and SD you an try CTRTransfer for repairing the firmware.

    Don't try using Gateway to prevent B9S from being overwritten.

    Good luck!
     
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    Do not boot gateway on sysnand after 9.2 gateway is emunand only, if you can still boot godmode9 you can restore a nand backup if you have it, this will fix that error, otherwise ctrtransfer
     
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    Where exactly did you get this non sense that gateway is emunand only after 9.2? Its fine up till 11.2. Thats when the gateway team abandoned their program.
     
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    Has anyone found a way to play ds games in GWemunand using the blue cart?
     
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    thx guys for the input. the restore nand backup did recover my n2dsxl. now i just have to reinstall back all the cia games and put luma back. probably next time should try ctrtransfer to recover before restore sysnand via godmode9. but all good now. thx for all your wise input.
     
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    here I am, about to dust off my 3ds coming here to check if it's worth switching to cfw from gateway and i run into this post .......

    um this requires cfw.. so what's the point of gateway in this ?
     
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    To use gateway
     
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    It does not make any sense
     
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    They can't just be happy how much use they did get of their expensive flashcart so they need to franken-firmware their system to justify their purchase. (IMO)
     
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    gateway mode always boots the emunand, it will only try to boot sysnand if you don't make an emunand.

    when arm9loader and b9s came out it changed this though you were still booting emunand until fw 11.2, your sysnand needed (preferably) to be on an older fw to run the payload to boot the gateway launcher, which then would boot your emunand so you can run newer games and go online....even the original gateway user manual tells you to create an emunand!

    my sysnand is on 11.12, gateway will only ever boot into my gw (11.13) emunand automatically.



    1. drag and drop and no install of cia's

    2. two sd slots (2x 256GB cards, space is not an issue anymore)
    3. I only paid $14.95 for my gateway card new ( https://www.axiogame.com/?product=gateway-3ds ) last year, with free shipping too! $15 is the same price for a regular nds flashcard (r4ds, acekard, etc) Quite expensive huh...not really

    4. to allow people who did originally buy gateway to allow them to still use the card they paid way more than i did for it

    5. everyone only hates gateway cause of the bricker.. but nobody remembers when dstt effectively did this same thing with fake dstt(i), not a console brick but bricking your flashcard is effectively the same on original nds(i)

    6. it doesn't make sense to me to bash people who want to use gateway, i went from luma to soley using gateway, i find gateway mode is more stable and provides better support for older homebrew (less crashes and some stuff luma doesn't run properly...ntrcfw)

    7. since roms are on red card, so it can played on any 3ds that will boot into gateway, if 3ds sd card is corrupted, i still have all my games

    8. easy to use cheat system

    luma3ds and gateway3ds literally both do the same exact thing, they are both CFW, you can run homebrew and roms, with gateway you get an extra sd slot, luma is open source and is still actively developed


    this isn't a replacement to luma, its simply allows a 3ds to dual boot either into luma3ds or gateway3ds using b9s

    it gives one the choice to either boot luma or a gateway card, it's very simple, people act like this is a gateway vs luma thread, it isn't, its a tutorial for those who want it, if you don't want it or don't own a gateway card then don't use it, don't bash someone else because they want to

    another reason why I feel homebrew scene kinda phasing itself out slowly , people can't agree to disagree, it must be their way or the highway, there could have been better slot-1 cards for the 3ds, it's not super card or entirely gateways fault , back in the nds days, you wanted your card to do something you did it yourself, you didn't sit and bug r4,cyclops, supercard, or acekard about their cards and kernel updates/issues, most patches and fixes came from the scene itself (cheats, ysmenu, AP patches, etc) , nowadays everybody wants someone else to do it for them and do it for free....... now its all about how to pirate my game easier, rather than learning some software and hardware engineering and actually creating your own homebrew software, that's the point of homebrew exploits, to run homebrew, piracy is just a side effect of having homebrew code execution


    also waiting 3-6 months for a kernel update is normal for active flash cards, this was the same on all nds flash cards, it is not new


    i've been using this for almost a year no issue, i went from solely using luma to really just using gateway, its hilarious because everybody dick rode gateway when they first released, only when they pulled a dstt, then everyone became salty, gateway brick isn't even an issue anymore, with ntrboot, it was only an issue back then becuase the 3ds wasn't fully understood then and ntrboot wasn't known, now it is....

    this thread didn't get over 10,000 views for no reason (surprised me too)
     
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