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ill buy a sky if they say it wont be out for 3+ months other than that im not going to waste $100
 

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Don't misunderstand me
This is the cold hard fact that seriously sucks. Sky3DS delivered but Gateway didn't. Heck, they even delivered a second hardware revision! It doesn't matter on what ground they did it on, but it's out and there's absolutely no limit on them. It sucks to press the button twenty thousand times, but at least there's people out there playing games like they wanted while we, "patient" users, cling on to terms like "multi-rom" , "region-free" and "CIA"s as if it's some sort of mantra that keeps our heads leveled.

F*cking ludicrous.
Don't misunderstand me. I'm a fan of the Gateway team. A huge fan, for many many reasons.
My interests in GW releasing the 9.2 update go further than selfish reasons playing games. I respect that they try to deliver quality work, but they have to be aware of the fact that there's competition out there and they can't take things as slow as they used to.
 

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And here we are again "after GW releases it". The point is we don't know when this will happen. It very well might still take months, for what it's worth.
The last time the GW team tossed out a soon, it took three months. Nobody will still care for GW after three months, heck even after one month nobody will anymore.
Not with alternatives around which deliver the main point people buy this for: Playing games.

that's what people always say. and it's not wrong. But in the end, people still go after what they think it's best no matter how long it takes.
If there's no real competition (I mean with similar features), people will still go back to GW even after using something else for 6 months or more.
I'm not saying I agree with all the wait neither am I a GW-obsessed fan. If I think they're the best it's purely due to their track record and their features. But if there was another one with the same or more features available, I would have no problem saying that one is the best.

My point is that if there's no evolution with the current flashcarts, people will still go after GW if they release the support in 2016.
 

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that's what people always say. and it's not wrong. But in the end, people still go after what they think it's best no matter how long it takes.
If there's no real competition (I mean with similar features), people will still go back to GW even after using something else for 6 months or more.
I'm not saying I agree with all the wait neither am I a GW-obsessed fan. If I think they're the best it's purely due to their track record and their features. But if there was another one with the same or more features available, I would have no problem saying that one is the best.

My point is that if there's no evolution with the current flashcarts, people will still go after GW if they release the support in 2016.

But I think it's unlikely that there won't be any evolution. Sky3DS made their cart already compatible with 9.4, you gotta give them credit for that.
I think there will be evolution, there is already. They need to hurry, or the innovators will be at the losing side.
 

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But I think it's unlikely that there won't be any evolution. Sky3DS made their cart already compatible with 9.4, you gotta give them credit for that.
I think there will be evolution, there is already. They need to hurry, or the innovators will be at the losing side.

well.. I have a hard time thinking about Sky3DS as any kind of evolutionary team. The only evolution they make is with colors and only when they really have to. Otherwise it just doesn't seem they try to improve.

My hopes are that the 3DS Scene can evolve into a path that doesn't rely on any flashcarts. But that's not easy.
 

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Don't misunderstand me
Don't misunderstand me. I'm a fan of the Gateway team. A huge fan, for many many reasons.
My interests in GW releasing the 9.2 update go further than selfish reasons playing games. I respect that they try to deliver quality work, but they have to be aware of the fact that there's competition out there and they can't take things as slow as they used to.


I believe I didn't, just went ahead with my opinion based on your last sentence: "Truth is: I genuinely hate Sky3DS but they delivered and Gateway didn't."
 
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well.. I have a hard time thinking about Sky3DS as any kind of evolutionary team. The only evolution they make is with colors and only when they really have to. Otherwise it just doesn't seem they try to improve.


Try explaining that to the people who are buying the cart as we speak because they can play games with it now and not in some distant future promised by the Gateway team.
The bitter truth is: Sky3DS are the first who managed to pass that 4.5 hurdle. And the Gateway team simply miscalculated, they thought there would be a lot of time, they didn't expect any competition,
they are clearly not prepared for this. This is what caused the situation. They try to catch up. It's simple. They want to release an update that will blow out the Sky3DS release out of the water.
But the truth is they don't have the capacities to pull that off in the time we expect or wish. My guess is, they don't want to release something that will be, in their eyes, inferior
to the Sky3DS cart. That's why we still haven't seen an update yet.
 

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does anybody know if its safe to use a 3ds home menu theme on emunand? I want a way to differntiate my regular sysnand with the glorious emunand
 

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Try explaining that to the people who are buying the cart as we speak because they can play games with it now and not in some distant future promised by the Gateway team.
The bitter truth is: Sky3DS are the first who managed to pass that 4.5 hurdle. And the Gateway team simply miscalculated, they thought there would be a lot of time, they didn't expect any competition,
they are clearly not prepared for this. This is what caused the situation. They try to catch up. It's simple. They want to release an update that will blow out the Sky3DS release out of the water.
But the truth is they don't have the capacities to pull that off in the time we expect or wish. My guess is, they don't want to release something that will be, in their eyes, inferior
to the Sky3DS cart. That's why we still haven't seen an update yet.

Yeah, I don't deny that Sky3DS might be selling more right now.
What I'm saying is not concerning any flashcart in particular and just about the 3DS Scene in general, I don't think it will be Sky3DS team making the Scene evolve further than how it is right now.

sorry. double post

does anybody know if its safe to use a 3ds home menu theme on emunand? I want a way to differntiate my regular sysnand with the glorious emunand

yup
 

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Ebay. Ebay is global, you can search for sellers only in Spain (or might be cheaper from USA/Aus IDK) I got a 32gb Samsung MicroSD (up to 48mb/s transfer) for 20AUD locally in Australia free shipping hhueheuheuh.


Just so you know, you probably won't be getting that 48 mbs in write speed, that actually refers to the read speed. The write will be somewhere around the 20-25 mbs. I was disappointed when I got my 64GB one and it didn't write as fast as I thought it would, but for 25 USD I guess I can deal with it.
 

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Yeah, I don't deny that Sky3DS might be selling more right now.
What I'm saying is not concerning any flashcart in particular and just about the 3DS Scene in general, I don't think it will be Sky3DS team making the Scene evolve further than how it is right now.

Oh I agree, but I think it won't be the flash cart manufacturers in either case.
It will be just a matter of who will provide the better ground for hacking/evolving/debugging/programming.
Gateway has the bigger potential, indeed, but it won't matter if you have to get hands on that 4.5 3DS first.
It's an expense that not everyone is willing to take.
It might be ironical, but those ~200$ you need for that 4.5 3DS, currently might hinder evolution.
 

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Oh I agree, but I think it won't be the flash cart manufacturers in either case.
It will be just a matter of who will provide the better ground for hacking/evolving/debugging/programming.
Gateway has the bigger potential, indeed, but it won't matter if you have to get hands on that 4.5 3DS first.
It's an expense that not everyone is willing to take.
It might be ironical, but those ~200$ you need for that 4.5 3DS, currently might hinder evolution.

Exactly. Like I said before, my hopes are for the 3DS scene to evolve in a way that it doesn't rely on flashcarts. But that's hard. Even harder than waiting for Gateway. lol
 

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part of the reason why this waiting is getting people nervous is because they DON'T KNOW yet how gateway managed to support 9.0+ firmwares,how did they do it without the ds profile exploit or extra hardware ?!!! the longer the wait is the more people will start to doubt if gateway above 4.5 is real.
 

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part of the reason why this waiting is getting people nervous is because they DON'T KNOW yet how gateway managed to support 9.0+ firmwares,how did they do it without the ds profile exploit or extra hardware ?!!! the longer the wait is the more people will start to doubt if gateway above 4.5 is real.

it will be interesting to see how long it will take for the clones to appear after GW releases it tho. lol
 

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part of the reason why this waiting is getting people nervous is because they DON'T KNOW yet how gateway managed to support 9.0+ firmwares,how did they do it without the ds profile exploit or extra hardware ?!!! the longer the wait is the more people will start to doubt if gateway above 4.5 is real.

Well it sure is real.

Just.. Why so long. Lol.
 

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I believe I didn't, just went ahead with my opinion based on your last sentence: "Truth is: I genuinely hate Sky3DS but they delivered and Gateway didn't."
Yes they did, but Id rather eat for a whole year than one meal if you catch my drift. I mean I can see everyone is hyped and excited about the release but the games wont go anywhere.
 

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Well it sure is real.

Just.. Why so long. Lol.

Well gateway could be

* doing a bunch of testing to make sure their stuff works
* trying to add in useless features like supporting old firmwares
* or just lying to us about the whole 4.5+ support thing

Considering the shady business that gateway is in, i won't be surprised if all this is some elaborate scheme to make more money. The video they posted is probably fake too, otherwise they'd have released already
 

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That means Gateway can not be "leading the innovation"

Right now in terms of features and evolution, they're the best. But I never said they'll always be the lead. And while I hope they keep evolving, I also hope that a way to not rely so much on flashcarts can be found. That's why it's interesting to see the progress that developers everywhere currently make by treading the paths already open by the flashcarts but also finding new features that might allow for that future.
 
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