Game Freak claims it is not reusing Pokemon models in Sword/Shield

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  1. raxadian

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    It would have taken too long to port all the Pokemon so they didn't as to not delay the game even more.
     
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  2. 8BitWonder

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    My first guess was that they're talking about the 3DS size constraint of 4GB, but the larger variants US/UM still had around .4GB of wiggle room.
    But even if that were their reason, the switch doesn't share that constraint since it splits games over 4GB into parts. :unsure:
     
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  3. scionae

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    Damn they're terrible fucking liars.
     
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  4. Konathedemo

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    The article got mistranslated by someone using Google Translator
    Using the Yandex translater it reveal that they were talking about making some choices from scratch due to the new hardware which make sense since the team didn't have a problem porting the original 150 Pokémon

    Here's the translation with Yandex: "Omori: we had a lot of discussions with Masuda about this.Even at the time of the Pokémon San moon, it was quite a tough situation (to be able to bring all the Pokémon together), but the hard turns into a Nintendo Switch, and we had to make some choices from scratch.However, I think that if you can play"Pocket Monster Sword Shield" (even if there is a limit to the Pokemon that can be brought) wild area and story, such as the content of the play becomes a considerable volume."

    Quick edit: Obviously the translation is not perfect but it make more sense than the bad translation about remaking the Pokémon models from scratch when they look the same and use the same animations
     
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  5. KapuDaKoopa

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    This complete misinformation has already been corrected multiple times by different people.
    The sourcing of "having to redo every model because of differing framerates/couldn't port the 3DS model data" and "they had to split their team up" don't even come from a mistranslation of the article, they come from a random reddit post that blew up, the OP of said post completely misinterpreting the article, likely due to using an automatic translator and just plain not caring to properly read.
    https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1150046237804154881
     
  6. osaka35

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    Do we have any native speakers in the forum that'd like to take a crack at translating the original interview?
     
  7. Rioluwott

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    Well we will know if they reused the models(we know they do) when the game release and we get all the files.
    Even if this was mistranslated it will give GF a bad look since people may believe it and think GF is even a more incompetent company than we thought.
    Also, i think CREATURES made the models for the Pokemon not GF.
    Anyway i hope these games be real bad so we can get 2 things
    A lot of fans finally acknowledge GF lazyness and stop buying the games or GF sees people are not buying bad games and try to improve(not happening)
     
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  8. ItsMetaKnight

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    You are absolutely right about this.
     
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  9. Windaga

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    I'm pretty sure every Pokemon can be Dynamaxed. Isn't that what they said?
     
  10. Enryx25

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    And that's a good thing :D
     
  11. smf

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    The 3d models is a lazy strawman, they are adding features and they have to model those features for all the pokemon. Plus a lot of the pokemon in previous games are just crap.

    The x, y, z coordinates is not the only model there is.... There are data models for the capabilities, there is also textures.
     
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  12. nikeymikey

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    Who actually cares if they did or didn’t use the same models? At the end of the day it’s yet another Pokemon game that kids will go nuts for, not to the extent of the early noughties but still.

    Does the reuse or non reuse of models really affect anybody’s life that much that they have to come on here screaming “F@$K YOU GAMEFREAK”
     
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  13. smf

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    It affects peoples entitlement.
     
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  14. GalladeGuy

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    I don't think anyone really cares that they're reusing models. The problem is that they're using it as an excuse for cutting Pokemon.
     
  15. Jiehfeng

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    Noticing, aloof from it all
    "Confirmed", right... :P
     
  16. DuoForce

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    Fake. Fucking. News.

    The models are the exact same as the 3DS models. This was a translation error. The fact that this made front page is embarrassing. You can do better than this GBATemp staff.

    Also, fuck GameFreak and #BringBackNationalDex
     
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  17. Clydefrosch

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    More excuses and I'm not buying it, they're banking on people not being able to check or something.
    And there's really no reason why dynamaxed pokemon except for the likely 7 that have an extra sprite, don't just upsize the existing base model.
    Also, if this causes so many issues, maybe they shouldn't have used that dumb gimmick.

    For real, people would've been fine with 20 more mega pokemon.

    Finally, it's painful to watch Masuda being put to the frontlines to deal with this too. Clearly this is not really his decision, the higher ups put him in a situation where he can't do anything but throw out pokemon because his team lacks the talent to fix this technically and manpower to solve this just with more work.
     
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  18. Megadriver94

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    >SCURP A DERP fans that express any reaction that isn't joy or happiness towards Gen 8 are automatically entitled!
    RIIIIIIIIIGHT...
    240npl.
     
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    Can’t wait for this game to get data mined once out so we really see what was so hard lol
     
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  20. deinonychus71

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    Few content creator / influencers of the mass who don't actually have the game nor have played it are calling out something
    The devs say no, backed up by different translations.

    The followers: "No this must be bullshit"

    Because of course, it comes from a company, so it is obviously lies and evil doing.

    Seriously. Some people give way too much credit to some influencers to even realize they are ALSO full of shit sometimes and are just surfing on the next general outrage. Hive-minded fanbase 101.
     
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