So as I start to catch on to a lot of the info on hacking the Wii (such as IOS', cIOS, etc..) I'm also trying to catch on to the threats that are targeted to harm/stop them, more so caused by Nintendo updates. Now that Nintendo is trying to use game disc updates to stop certain IOS signing bugs, along with other hacks, what should we do? I mean I know we can just use GeckoOS or Preloader for it's ignore settings, but what if the game disc updates are needed for the games to function properly. I'm bringing this up because sometime soon I plan on renting/buying The Conduit, NPC Mario Power Tennis, maybe NPC Pikmin, and all future Wii games that could possibly always have a disc update. Not to mention that it would be a very minuscule hassle to have to load Gecko all the time to play a new game, when we can't even use the Wii's Disc Channel to play games normally. So what should I do? I heard Conduit upgrades some IOS' and MIOS (which also renders GCN Backups incompatible). My friend claims that NPC Mario Power Tennis game disc update upgrades IOS35 so you have to downgrade it again. Will there be/are there patches for these updates that work WITH them and still allow you to do GC Backups/keep your IOS the way they were modified? Is there a good fairly updated comprehensible site (NOT WuM) that lists and explains all disc updates? I just want to be able to play games normally while being still able to do Wii/GC Backups, and WADs. If I'm forced to use Gecko I will but I just want to know if there are alternatives. Thanks for your time, I really appreciate how this community has helped me with my questions this week altogether.