Gabe Newell: Apple is Valve's greatest competitor in the living room

Discussion in 'User Submitted News' started by Qtis, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. Qtis

    Qtis Grey Knight Inquisitor

    Feb 28, 2010
    The Forge
    As GBAtemp tends to focus a lot on the home consoles made by Microsoft, Sony and especially Nintendo, sometimes the info about other consoles and possible TV top sets come and go without being noticed that much. Ars posted an interesting article about Apple's unreleased, gaming capable TV top set (probably an AppleTV in all but name).

    Below is a straight quote made by Valve co-founder Gabe Newell, whom most of you know, at the University of Texas LBJ School of Public Affairs.


    Do you think that the possibility of Apple's new ATV is a real competitor to the PC master race's beloved Steambox? Will consoles really be able to compete with the ATV with it's relatively low cost (around $100 at the moment)?
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  2. Foxi4

    Foxi4 On the hunt...

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    Sep 13, 2009
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    Hi guys!
    Been out of the industry for a while, what did I miss?
    Am I the only one who sometimes thinks that Gabe lives in an alternate reality?
  3. emigre

    emigre An electric type pokemons

    Jan 28, 2009
    United States
    It would explain the cause of "Valve time,"
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  4. Wizerzak

    Wizerzak Because I'm a potato!

    May 30, 2010
    United Kingdom
    Because Angry Birds and Temple Run are definitely competitors to Call of Duty.
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  5. ferofax

    ferofax End of the World

    Jan 26, 2009
    Excuse me, kind sirs, but wtf is that? :blink:
  6. p1ngpong

    p1ngpong Anti Switch Owners

    Former Staff
    Apr 18, 2008
    DS Scene
    Considering Apple are swimming in lakes of money thanks to their cut from the profits of iOS game sales and considering Apple have a blind brainwashed cultlike userbase that even Nintendo would envy Gabe might be right to be concerned. If Apple released a home console tomorrow we would probably see scenes reminiscent of the early days of the wii.
  7. Bladexdsl

    Bladexdsl ZOMG my's over 9000!!!

    Nov 17, 2008
    I can see it now...a console full of lame casual and pay to play games just like the rest of the IOS crap. yeah they're a real threat!
  8. Issac

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    Actually I am surprised Apple didn't sue Sony for the banana/boomerang controller prototype design for the ps3..... ;P
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  9. Veho

    Veho The man who cried "Ni".

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    Apr 4, 2006
    Also known as "the real world".
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  10. FAST6191

    FAST6191 Techromancer

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    Nov 21, 2005
    United Kingdom
    I wonder what those rumblings of MS putting out an XBLA only (with a heavy focus on streamed video) console would do to this scenario. Equally although the streaming is awful and the players that much better the PS3 does also see use as a blu ray player.
  11. pokefloote

    pokefloote GBAtemp Addict

    Mar 20, 2009
    United States
    Well, isn't the valve system going to be pretty pricey? Can't really compete with consoles if the only people who will buy it are the ones who would buy a gaming PC anyway. I think technically Apple would be "winning" in sales because of this, but not necessarily quality. PC has a whole world of games to offer and iOS has... Temple Run 2 and Angry Birds as it's most popular offering.
  12. Valwin

    Valwin The Neautral Gamer

    May 11, 2011
    United States
    ewwww what's that?
  13. soulx

    soulx GBAtemp Legend

    Apr 4, 2009
  14. Gahars

    Gahars Bakayaro Banzai

    Aug 5, 2011
    United States
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    I'm a bit skeptical. Apple certainly has a huge ingrained audience, sure, but people buy their laptops, tablets, phones, etc. for the portability. That's the whole appeal. Will these same people want to spend hundreds of dollars on something tethered to their living room?

    Even if it has the Apple brand slapped on it, I'm not so sure.
  15. Dann Woolf

    Dann Woolf Deadpan Snarker

    Oct 12, 2010
    No apple is too big for Gabe Newell to eat!
  16. pokefloote

    pokefloote GBAtemp Addict

    Mar 20, 2009
    United States
  17. Guild McCommunist

    Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    May 6, 2009
    United States
    The Danger Zone
    Valve isn't developing a single system, they're basically just working with a bunch of hardware manufacturers who are making their own "living room PCs" and supporting them with Steam. I think.

    As much as everyone hates Apple they're simply the biggest name in electronics today. It's hard to deny them as a threat when they draw more revenue from hardware and software than most any other company.
  18. DSGamer64

    DSGamer64 Canadian, Eh?

    Nov 9, 2007
    A cold cold place
    Fortunately Apple's popularity in the portable market is dwindling as consumers realize that their products aren't designed for certain aspects, like the iPad fails as a business tablet and the iPhone isn't exactly the most widely recognized brand among businessmen. Apple isn't that popular in the home computer market, so what makes Gabe think that Apple creating a TV based gaming system is a competitor to Valve? Apple really wouldn't be much of a threat to anyone because they don't have much market penetration in the home entertainment sector. I hope he realizes that if Valve releases a home console, and Apple does too, the home console market will become even more over saturated then it already is. It's bad enough having 3 consoles, having 5 home console platforms would kill the industry.
  19. RodrigoDavy

    RodrigoDavy GBAtemp Maniac

    Feb 9, 2011
    I have the impression that companies tend to forget about Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony which are more traditional in this market, admitedelly with a different kind of product but, let's face it, they have the same purpose. Also, the only reason Apple is so popular with smartphones, tablets and even computers to some extent is because the company entered these market very early when these devices weren't even popular.

    Want it or not, Apple have no real experience with gaming like Valve and I don't think they would succeed having to compete against either home consoles or these new kinds of TV PC consoles :wacko:

    I hope Valve goes way, since they are giving a lot of support for Linux because of this Steam box, now I can play Half-Life and CS in my linux PC! :lol:
  20. Guild McCommunist

    Guild McCommunist (not on boat)

    May 6, 2009
    United States
    The Danger Zone
    I don't think Apple has really been about appealing to business or industry. Almost any major industry with a computer infrastructure uses Windows. It's cheaper to buy a large amount of boring PCs in bulk and slap Windows on them. Apple computers are meant more for "specialty" fields or for personal use. Like Apple products are a lot more streamlined so most things are already optimized and it isn't too finicky. Like a lot of people use it for film production (editing, graphics, etc). Personally I've edited on both (one a couple thousand dollar iMac, the other a much less expensive but still pretty decent quality HP tower at my school) and I don't see much of a difference, but some people like it like that.

    iPads have never been about being "business tablets", they're meant for personal use. So games, movies, browsing the web, not really doing work. iPhones, I don't see how they're any less "business" than an Android phone (I own an Android phone for reference), most of them have the same apps and functions, only difference arguably is that Android phones are more open (not something needed for businessmen).

    Apple has its niche and I think even the most seasoned fanboys know that. They may not like the niche but they realize there's a reason huge companies or businesses choose Windows over Mac.

    Also Apple continues to do well because they have a serious install base. Say what you want about our Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony fanboys, very few are as dedicated as it is when it comes to Apple and certainly not as large. Even Nintendo fans here, for instance, didn't want a Wii U at launch, a long hyped Nintendo home console arriving several years after the Wii U, but Apple fans will go buy a new iPad at launch, 5 months after the last iteration.
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