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You do not understand me:

Either the rules ALWAYS apply and in EVERY qualifying / race (how many "exceptions" have there been this year ...?)

or they should leave it.....
Exactly what I have been saying all season. One driver does something (Normally Lando or Lewis) and they get punished for it. Then another driver does the exact same thing and no punishment (Max and Fernando).
 
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Dispute over duel behavior We're still waiting for the stewards. Big debate today before the race, but also: What can we expect? Will the F1 World Championship get really dirty in the last three weekends? In the driver briefing it was pointed out that a comparable action by Verstappen in Brazil could result in a warning flag. The drivers yesterday made a public mood against it, complained about a lack of understanding, and Leclerc predicted on Thursday: If they let that go, we will start to push everyone out. Carlos Sainz called for talks during the winter break and does not want to accept the argument that no incident is ever comparable. They then want some kind of guidelines.


Says the Man Leclerc:





(And YES,Max did so much of such Actions in the Past,he IS no Saint,to make it clear.)


I am so annoyed of todays "short memory Minds" of some People....
 
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Don't worry, Michael Masi is in love with Verstappen as much as Charlie was in love with Ferrari when he was alive.
Wrong:

Grand Prix of Qatar​



Starting Grid:
1.Lewis HamiltonGBRMercedes
2.Pierre GaslyFRAAlpha Tauri
3.Fernando AlonsoESPAlpine
4.Lando NorrisGBRMcLaren
5.Carlos SainzESPFerrari
6.Valtteri Bottas *FINMercedes
7.Max Verstappen **NEDRed Bull
8.Yuki TsonodaJPNAlpha Tauri
9.Esteban OconFRAAlpine
10.Sebastian VettelGERAston Martin
11.Sergio PerezMEXRed Bull
12.Lance StrollCANAston Martin
13.Charles LeclercMONFerrari
14.Daniel RicciardoAUSMcLaren
15.George RussellGBRWilliams
16.Kimi RäikkönenFINAlfa Romeo
17.Nicholas LatifiCANWilliams
18.Antonio GiovinazziITAAlfa Romeo
19.Mick SchumacherGERHaas
20.Nikita MazepinRUSHaas


* 3 Plac Grid Penalty
** 5 Place Grid Penalty



And again,we have a "Stewarts Race"....Happy now,Toto and Mercedes ?
Hopefully the Rules will be handled also correctly in the next 3 Races.....
 
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You do not understand me:

Either the rules ALWAYS apply and in EVERY qualifying / race (how many "exceptions" have there been this year ...?)

or they should leave it.....

Which race weekend was a driver not penalised for failing to slow down in qualifying when yellow flags were waving?
 

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Then what are you on about the stewards not being consistent here?

Just because it's the final races of the season should not give the drivers a free pass on serious offenses regarding driver safety.
Yes safety of course...and Consequences/Penalties.Mercedes have/has always a FREE Pass...







(Great,also the Video of the Crash is not allowed to watch ...😂 )



Yes,I know,that Crash is a dumb Case/Comparision......
 
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Yes safety of course...and Consequences/Penalties.Mercedes have/has always a FREE Pass...

Yes,I know,that Crash is a dumb Case/Comparision......
It is the worst comparison you could have made. Because that crash was really Russell's fault, Mercedes did not get a free pass here.

Both are racing for position and while at first glance it looks as if Bottas pushed George off track, if you look at it, he gave him just enough space. George touching the wet grass to the right is what caused the crash.
 

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It is the worst comparison you could have made. Because that crash was really Russell's fault, Mercedes did not get a free pass here.

Both are racing for position and while at first glance it looks as if Bottas pushed George off track, if you look at it, he gave him just enough space. George touching the wet grass to the right is what caused the crash.
You mentioned the safety Point.
After such a Crash no Consequences/Penalties is conducive for safer Driving ?
 
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You mentioned the safety Point.
After such a Crash no Consequences/Penalties is conducive for safer Driving ?
Stop moving the goalposts. Your posts was about Mercedes getting a free pass, how was this a free pass for Mercedes?

Once you answer that question, I will answer your quoted message here.
 

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Grand Prix of Qatar​



After 57 Laps (306,660 km):
1.Lewis HamiltonGBRMercedes1:24:28,471
2.Max VerstappenNEDRed Bull+ 25,743
3.Fernando AlonsoESPAlpine59,457
4.Sergio PerezMEXRed Bull1:02,306
5.Esteban OconFRAAlpine1:20,570
6.Lance StrollCANAston Martin1:21,274
7.Carlos SainzESPFerrari1:21,911
8.Charles LeclercMONFerrari1:23,126
9.Lando NorrisGBRMcLaren1 Runde
10.Sebastian VettelGERAston Martin1 Runde
11.Pierre GaslyFRAAlpha Tauri1 Runde
12.Daniel RicciardoAUSMcLaren1 Runde
13.Yuki TsonodaJPNAlpha Tauri1 Runde
14.Kimi RäikkönenFINAlfa Romeo1 Runde
15.Antonio GiovinazziITAAlfa Romeo1 Runde
16.Mick SchumacherGERHaas1 Runde
17.George RussellGBRWilliams2 Runden
18.Nikita MazepinRUSHaas2 Runden


Out: Valtteri Bottas (FIN/Mercedes), Nicholas Latifi (CAN/Williams)
Fastest Lap: Verstappen 1:23,196 (57.)

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Drivers Championship:​


1.Max VerstappenNEDRed Bull351,5
2.Lewis HamiltonGBRMercedes343,5
3.Valtteri BottasFINMercedes203
4.Sergio PerezMEXRed Bull190
5.Lando NorrisGBRMcLaren153
6.Charles LeclercMONFerrari152
7.Carlos SainzESPFerrari145,5
8.Daniel RicciardoAUSMcLaren105
9.Pierre GaslyFRAAlpha Tauri92
10.Fernando AlonsoESPAlpine77
11.Esteban OconFRAAlpine60
12.Sebastian VettelGERAston Martin43
13.Lance StrollCANAston Martin34
14.Yuki TsunodaJPNAlpha Tauri20
15.George RussellGBRWilliams16
16.Kimi RäikkönenFINAlfa Romeo10
17.Nicholas LatifiCANWilliams7
18.Antonio GiovinazziITAAlfa Romeo1
19.Mick SchumacherGERHaas0
20.Robert KubicaPOLAlfa Romeo0
21.Nikita MazepinRUSHaas0



Constructors Championship:​



1.Mercedes546,5
2.Red Bull541,5
3.Ferrari297,5
4.McLaren258
5.Alpine137
6.Alpha Tauri112
7.Aston Martin77
8.Williams23
9.Alfa Romeo11
10.Haas0



Next Race:

Grand Prix of Saudi Arabia 3.12.2021


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Grand Prix of Saudi Arabia​



After Q3
1.Lewis HamiltonGBRMercedes1:27,511
2.Valtteri BottasFINMercedes1:27,622
3.Max VerstappenNEDRed Bull1:27,653
4.Charles LeclercMONFerrari1:28,054
5.Sergio PerezMEXRed Bull1:28,123
6.Pierre GaslyFRAAlpha Tauri1:28,125
7.Lando NorrisGBRMcLaren1:28,180
8.Yuki TsunodaJPNAlpha Tauri1:28,442
9.Esteban OconFRAAlpine1:28,647
10.Antonio GiovinazziITAAlfa Romeo1:28,754
Out in Q2:
11.Daniel RicciardoAUSMcLaren1:28,668
12.Kimi RäikkönenFINAlfa Romeo1:28,885
13.Fernando AlonsoESPAlpine1:28,920
14.George RussellGBRWilliams1:29,054
15.Carlos SainzESPFerrari1:53,652
Out in Q1:
16.Nicholas LatifiCANWilliams1:29,177
17.Sebastian VettelGERAston Martin1:29,198
18.Lance StrollCANAston Martin1:29,368
19.Mick SchumacherGERHaas1:29,464
20.Nikita MazepinRUSHaas1:30,473




Last Information,Verstappen has no Parts to Change and can keep his 3.Grid Place.
 
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