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Discussion in 'General Off-Topic Chat' started by taktularCBo, Aug 3, 2010.
What do you think, was the meeting with Cobbs family at the end just a dream (top still spins)?
Though I do find it coincidental that his kids were wearing the same clothes, the fact that one could trace the layers of kicked dream back to reality, as well as the fact that the top started to wobble a bit right before the screen rudely turned to black, is enough for me to think that he's in reality.
But... Then again, he sort of just walked away without even taking a second look at the top, as if he didn't even care for reality anymore. And the whole "the children are wearing the same clothes" thing is a bit fishy. Perhaps the image of his kids doing the same thing in the same clothes as when he left was a projection in his mind, projected that way in order to fully satiate his burning desire to see them after all that time.
Dang, now I'm second-guessing myself.
...Damn you, Christopher Nolan, you suck for not giving us a clear ending.
What makes me believe that he was not dreaming, is that, at the end he was not wearing his wedding ring anymore, which he was in limbo.
I think he was in reality because the top began to wobble and we saw the children's faces. Before we didn't see the faces of them because you couldn't change a memory.
This is a great movie!
From looking at the FAQ on IMDB, reading comments around here, and using my own thoughts, I wrote this. It's from my Facebook so copypasta.
Warning: Spoilers inside!
From some FAQ I saw apparently I found out the real ending to Inception. Watch and learn kids! Oh, if you didn't see the movie, this contains spoilers.
So, remember at the end of the movie where our main character (Cobb) finally gets home after completing the job of Inception. He sees his family in a scene very familiar to us; it's almost a dead replica of one of his most regretted memories that keeps popping up, which is him not being able to say goodbye to his kids. He spins his top (his totem that lets him know if he's dreaming or not) and runs off to see his kids. We're left seeing the top keep spinning, leading us to think it's a dream as the movie ends without it stopping. A few things.
1. If you notice throughout the movie, Cobb wears a wedding ring whilst he's dreaming. In the real world he doesn't. Cobb isn't wearing a wedding ring in the final scene.
2. The top while in a dream spins perfectly. It doesn't wobble or anything. In the final scene, it is scene wobbling, which it never did in any of the dream sequences. It shows that it's just a really long spin.
3. His children are slightly bigger and wearing different clothing, and he of course sees their faces. He wouldn't alter his past memory of seeing his children, despite how painful it was, and this scene just so happened to be a dead ringer for the other scene. So if it was a dream it would be an alteration of his past dream.
4. Cobb can remember how how he got to where he was. A common and recurring telltale sign in the movie of a dream is not being able to remember how he got there.
5. It's been stated several times that Cobb and many other people who do the whole extraction deal lose the ability to dream naturally. Cobb and the others are only able to dream when hooked up to the whole machine gizmo. So if he just fell asleep on his own he wouldn't have a dream.
On the other hand, it could be a dream...
1. He could not be wearing the wedding ring as a metaphor for him getting over his dead wife, who he finally confronted in the end of the movie. He simply could be dreaming and have gotten over that.
2. The idea of a totem does have one big plot hole in the movie. Totems only let you know if you're in someone else's dream. If you were in your own dream your own memory and subconscious would simply just remember the key aspect of your totem (like which side a loaded die rolls to) and replicate it in your own dream. And the idea of a top as a totem is a shitty one. Think about it. Cobb's partner-in-crime, Arthur, has a loaded die as a totem. It works because only he knows where it will roll to. So unless you found out what it will roll to, he would only be able to tell if he was dreaming or not. If he was in another dream of course. On the other hand, a top is something everyone knows will eventually fall, so anyone's mind would see a top and replicate that it would fall eventually. Unless there's a key feature like how it falls or when it falls that's left out of the movie, it's a useless totem. Something like a coin that always flips heads or tails would be a better totem.
3. It could just be an original dream. I'm sure we've all had dreams that show the ones we love that are older or different than usual. Maybe he didn't extract this from memory and instead created his own dream.
4. It never specifically details if Cobb remembers how he got there. For all we know the entire movie was a dream or he was kidnapped from the airport and put into a dream state (more on that later).
5. This dream could just be another layer of the dream on the airplane, or it lends merit to the whole "the entire movie is a dream" theory.
WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE I LOOKED THIS UP.
Regardless, any movie to have enough debate on the ending and be able to have this much speculation shows that it's a movie with such incredible depth and ingenuity. I truly enjoyed it.
No way in hell the entire movie is a dream. But i do agree with almost all your points.
Who knows, maybe the entire movie was a dream and it's just a giant mindfuck. We'll have to wait for the director's cut of the film, with two additional seconds at the end where the top falls, then keeps spinning again, and then Christopher Nolan pops out and screams "FUCK YOOOOOOU!"
I can't say for certain, but I'm pretty sure that he WASNT dreaming. I mostly say this because of the opinions in Guild's post. Makes a lot of sense to me. The "Whole movie is a dream" idea is stupid, and would kind of ruin the effect for me. I doubt that the human mind would be able to fathom a dream within a dream x5.
I believe that there are no real answers to the ending of inception.
That's why this movie is so great, MINDFUCK
One layer more or less would not be a difference, right?
Wrong. In lucid dreams, your hands are blurry and you are not able to read or make out numbers. Just imagine the effect x5.