[for guys] Have you ever worn a bra?

[grey72]

Jeans for women of course

Aw hell yeah dude
Although I am so slim that I'm seriously considering buying women's jeans, it's freaking hard to find something that fits well

 

[AmandaRose]

lol?
you created an account here just to post that?
you're much much weirder than me

Hate to say it but nobody is as weird as you. But hey thats not necessarily a bad thing lol.

 

[grey72]

Hate to say it but nobody is as weird as you. But hey thats not necessarily a bad thing lol.

not even xathya?
RIP in pepperonis

 

[AmandaRose]

not even xathya?

Nope lol

 

[GhostLatte]

I view sucking dick as a hobby. I'm not gay. I'm just optimistic. Plus, I say no homo every time.

 

[AmandaRose]

I view sucking dick as a hobby. I'm not gay. I'm just optimistic. Plus, I say no homo every time.

Mr Latte I hope you mean homosapien and not homosexual because saying homo is not very nice and if you continue to use that horrible word I will be forced to pull your pants down and give you a good spanking lol. (seriously though saying homo is wrong please don't use it)

 

[FAST6191]

(seriously though saying homo is wrong please don't use it)

Even if I were to follow such lines of logic I have met no end of homosexual people that would utilise the term to describe themselves, and not even in an ironic fashion like some black people might opt to use n**** or some of Pakistani origin might use Paki. That said they would struggle even then as it has never been a mainstream hateful or pejorative term that I have seen -- faggot, turd pusher, fudge packer... all potentially falling into that. Homo... not so much.

To that end whatever the equivalent of "citation needed" is here. If I am to discourage the use of a word then there had better be some serious reasoning for it, and not just endlessly moving goalposts of people that view control of language as a good thing.

 

[AmandaRose]

Even if I were to follow such lines of logic I have met no end of homosexual people that would utilise the term to describe themselves, and not even in an ironic fashion like some black people might opt to use n**** or some of Pakistani origin might use Paki. That said they would struggle even then as it has never been a mainstream hateful or pejorative term that I have seen -- faggot, turd pusher, fudge packer... all potentially falling into that. Homo... not so much.

To that end whatever the equivalent of "citation needed" is here. If I am to discourage the use of a word then there had better be some serious reasoning for it, and not just endlessly moving goalposts of people that view control of language as a good thing.

Just going to leave this here for your perusal http://theweek.com/articles/556341/why-word-homosexual-offensive

 

[FAST6191]

Just going to leave this here for your perusal http://theweek.com/articles/556341/why-word-homosexual-offensive

Read it. The logic behind it all seems spurious and not worth utilising for my own, not to mention seems to be largely American in nature. Thanks for the attempt at least, I will add it to the list of linguistic quirks I carry around.

 

[AmandaRose]

Read it. The logic behind it all seems spurious and not worth utilising for my own, not to mention seems to be largely American in nature. Thanks for the attempt at least, I will add it to the list of linguistic quirks I carry around.

AlI I can say is that as a prominent member of the LGBT community here in Glasgow the vast majority of the gay community hate with a passion being called homo.That word is only ever used here in a derogatory manner. Sure things may be different in other cities and countries round the world but here that word is used only for hatred its as simple as that.

 

[antiNT]

This is the way to go bois, the most confortable thing I have ever worn

 

[FAST6191]

Hmm. I am now slightly curious as to the regional slang of the UK for such matters. Not to mention I will also still have to go with intent.

 

[AmandaRose]

Hmm. I am now slightly curious as to the regional slang of the UK for such matters. Not to mention I will also still have to go with intent.

I will ask you a question

As you may know I am transgender so would you see it as being acceptable for you to call me a t******? If yes why and if no why. Whatever you answer I wont be upset

 

[FAST6191]

I will ask you a question

As you may know I am transgender so would you see it as being acceptable for you to call me a t******?

Is that not a different question entirely concerning a different term with a different history?

For an answer though. Hazy on that one. I have seen it used as some kind of pejorative, some kind of self identification, some take exception to it, some general purpose usage, some usage in porn which is presumably made for people that enjoy such things. Not sure where I would fall on the New York Times rule for that one or in front of an audience. I would not perceive it as inherently hateful and look for other context but there is far far far more scope for it to end up there than the previous discussion on homo (and if going by that link apparently homosexual as well).

 

[AmandaRose]

Is that not a different question entirely concerning a different term with a different history?

For an answer though. Hazy on that one. I have seen it used as some kind of pejorative, some kind of self identification, some take exception to it, some general purpose usage, some usage in porn which is presumably made for people that enjoy such things. Not sure where I would fall on the New York Times rule for that one or in front of an audience. I would not perceive it as inherently hateful and look for other context but there is far far far more scope for it to end up there than the previous discussion on homo (and if going by that link apparently homosexual as well).

Ok thank you for answering I was asking for a reason. I personally would not be upset by being called that but again the vast majority of transgenders in Scotland would be greatly offended by being called t******. It is also illegal here to use that word and you can be arrested for doing so. It is also a banned word on Facebook and other social media outlets as it is seen as a hate crime to use it. The point I'm trying to make is that because a word is acceptable in one country it may not be acceptable in others which could lead someone into trouble should they travel the world. Also because a word is acceptable in one country does that mean the word is ok to use?? Not trying to stir up trouble just trying to understand how words can be seen in a totally different context depending where you are in the world lol also badly hungover and brain not working so this is probably a crazy jumble of mixed up incoherency lol.

 

[grey72]

Ok thank you for answering I was asking for a reason. I personally would not be upset by being called that but again the vast majority of transgenders in Scotland would be greatly offended by being called t******. It is also illegal here to use that word and you can be arrested for doing so. It is also a banned word on Facebook and other social media outlets as it is seen as a hate crime to use it. The point I'm trying to make is that because a word is acceptable in one country it may not be acceptable in others which could lead someone into trouble should they travel the world. Also because a word is acceptable in one country does that mean the word is ok to use?? Not trying to stir up trouble just trying to understand how words can be seen in a totally different context depending where you are in the world lol also badly hungover and brain not working so this is probably a crazy jumble of mixed up incoherency lol.

I think the fact that "homosexual" is the scientific word for gay people puts an end to the argument that it is necessarily used in a disparaging way. It may have such meaning depending on who is using it or depending on any other context, but the fact that it is a scientific term means that you should never simply assume from the get go that its use is malicious in intent

 

[FAST6191]

Hate speech laws, which I guess is what makes it illegal there, are interesting ones for me and typically find them horribly unproductive and possibly even antithetical to the ideal of free speech and expression. Such things might make you a cunt but don't warrant handcuffs inn and of themselves. Don't particularly care on principle what social meeja does, and in some senses it might even make sense if they want to be advertiser funded, but if they are going to try to claim they like/encourage free speech and expression then they can try again.

Country variations then. Baseline logic would probably be consider where you are (as in country, but if you are somewhere someone might try to hit you it is not unwise to consider that also -- the violent moron might be wrong but it is still however long to wait for the tender black eye/bruised knuckles/court case to go), the people you are speaking to (they might speak the same language as you -- if two months from now I am in the US in a private house with people that primarily speak UK English do I avoid the word cunt? A word I know to be considered an incredibly strong invective in the US despite being far milder in the UK, something I always feign ignorance of because it is hilarious to me). Internet outrage mobs are a fun modern twist, especially as it might come back to haunt you and they tend to only go with US English in the English speaking world, in my case though I figure I have nothing to lose anyway.


To go one further. Most of the history of the English language things have been noted as descriptive (*looks out at the world*, guess this is what the kids are doing there days *notes*), as opposed to prescriptive (this is how you do it, French being the typical example of a prescriptive language). To that end I will tend to look at usages rather than take someone's word for what something is as far as this sort of thing is concerned. Also if you can control language then you have a lot of power and I am thus wary of any that try it.

 

[grey72]

if you can control language then you have a lot of power and I am thus wary of any that try it.

This. THIS SO MUCH. Thank you.

 

[AmandaRose]

Also if you can control language then you have a lot of power and I am thus wary of any that try it.

The thing is it's not about controlling language its about the individual thinking about the context of the word being used and how the person they are using it on can see it in a totally different context to the one that said it. Yes it is then a personal choice for that person to still go ahead and say the word but they should be prepared for the consequences that may follow.

Sadly the worst weapon in the world is not guns knives or bombs its words and we all have a responsibility to think before using them especially when talking to people from different parts of the world. Well that is what I think anyway.

Now enough of this lets get this thread back to being about guys that wear Bras.

 

[GhostLatte]

Mr Latte I hope you mean homosapien and not homosexual because saying homo is not very nice and if you continue to use that horrible word I will be forced to pull your pants down and give you a good spanking lol. (seriously though saying homo is wrong please don't use it)

I'm into that kinky shit so we good