Hey everybody.
I'm currently looking to buy one of my very first SLOT-1 (and maybe SLOT-2) flash cards, so I'm here to ask a few questions about them.
If I sound like I'm asking a dumb question at any time, feel free to flame me if you like, but you'll know why - flash cards are still a rather new subject to me. I'm here to listen to those that have experience with such things, to gain further knowledge, so I appreciate any posts, replies, suggestions, experiences, etc, that are given.
So, enough with the introductions, and onto the main subject at hand without further adue.
I've done some research already on most of the various flash cards out there and tried to compare them in features, price, etc, as best I could. I feel though, that my findings are only mostly accurate, but I may be wrong. And to be honest, it is hard to find grammatically correct and understandable English up-to-date information and comparisons without going to (and checking) each of the individual websites and/or flash card products out (most of which, also have poorly translated manuals from what I hear). And after searching the forums, which really wasn't any better as most posts/replies and/or stickies/reviews were out-of-date or answered solely on popularity/usage/opinion, not so much on fact - of course, it'll still depend on my choice in the end either way. So, here's what I've concluded from my results (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, or to just add something):
Slot-1 solutions:
R4 DS - Most popular, moderate in pricing, good DS game compatability + homebrew support, frequent updates, has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support for sleep mode but not SDHC, customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
M3 DS Simply (M3DSS) - Exact copy of the R4 DS (and manufactured by the same company - GBalpha), except with a few added wires, about the same as the R4 DS in popularity, about the same price as the R4 DS, good DS game compatability + homebrew support, somewhat slower updates (only after the R4 DS releases theirs), has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support[/i] for sleep mode but not SDHC, customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
M3 DS Real (M3DSR) - Vastly different than the R4 DS, exact copy of the G6 DS Real (and manufactured by the same company - GBalpha), uses same firmware from G4 DS Real, about the same as the R4 DS / M3 DS Simply / G6 DS Real in popularity, moderate in pricing, has good DS game capatability + homebrew support, somewhat slower updates (only after the G6 DS Real releases theirs), has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support for sleep and SDHC, customer support good?, also includes Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
Cyclo DS - Somewhat not as well-known, but still very popular, bit more expensive than the R4 DS / M3 series, best DS game compatability + homebrew support, frequent updates, has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support for sleep and SDHC, customer support good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
G6 DS Real (G6DSR) - Not as popular as the R4 DS / M3 / CycloDS series, manufactured by the same company as the R4 DS / M3 series (GBalpha), very expensive, good DS game compatability + homebrew support, frequent updates, has built-in 8Gbit (1GB) or 16Gbit (2GB) Nand flash memory, has no built-in memory reader, has support for sleep mode but not SDHC, customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
Supercard DS One - Not as popular as the R4 DS / M3 / CycloDS, exact copy of the M3 Simply (and manufactured by the same company - GBalpha), about the same price as the R4 DS / M3 series, somewhat good DS game compatability + homebrew support, somewhat slower updates (only after the M3 DS Simply releases theirs), has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support for sleep mode and SDHC, customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
EZ-FLASH V - To be researched.
Acekard RPG - To be researched.
DS Xtreme - To be researched.
DS Linker / N-Card - To be researched.
Others? - To be researched.
Slot-2 solutions:
M3 DS Real (M3DSR) Expansions - To be researched. No information out yet?
M3 Lite - Somewhat popular, expensive, DS support only, good DS + GBA compatability + homebrew support, frequent updates, has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM packs, it is only a Game Expansion pack.
EZ-Flash V 3-in-1 - More popular than the M3 series, moderate in pricing, DS + Lite support, good DS + GBA compatability + homebrew support, no firmware updates, has built-in 256Mbit (32MB) Norflash, 128Mbit (16MB) PSRAM, and 2Mbit (250KB) SRAM memory, includes internal/integrated battery, has no built-in memory reader, customer support is good?, includes Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
EZ-Flash IV Lite - Not as popular as the M3 / EZ-Flash V series, three times as expensive as the EZ-Flash V 3-in-1, DS + Lite support, good DS + GBA compatability + homebrew support, no firmware updates, has built-in 384Mbit (48MB) NorFLASH, 256Mbit (32MB) PSRAM, and 8Mbit (1MB) SRAM memory, does not include internal/integrated battery, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM packs, it is only a Game Expansion pack.
G6 Lite - To be researched.
Supercard Lite - To be researched.
eWin (credits to Eyedunno) - Not as popular as the M3 / EZ-Flash V / EZ-Flash IV / Supercard Lite series, moderate in pricing, DS Lite support only, good DS + GBA compatibility + homebrew support, infrequent updates, has built-in 256Mbit (32MB) SDRAM and 2Mbit (250KB) SRAM memory, includes internal/integrated battery, has no built-in memory reader, customer support is poor (Chinese only), does not include Rumble +/- RAM packs, it is only a Game Expansion pack.
Others? - To be researched.
There's my list. Once again, if anyone would like to add anything that I missed or stated incorrectly, feel free to post a reply. Hopefully this'll help other users that are in the same situation as I am.
Now, the main things in my purchase decision are mainly based on a few things. What I would like to have is good support for at least NDS backups, homebrew, download play, and multiplayer. If not those, then at least GBA support w/ a NDS Pass card of some sort.
I also like scrolling text menus rather than fancy GUI's.
I only plan on spending around $25 to $75 USD as a max for either one, or for both. So if anyone has any recommendations for cheap American or Canadian websites to buy from, that'd be great!
International websites are an option too, just as long as its not too expensive for shipping.
I'm leaning towards purchasing an R4 DS, Cyclo DS, or M3DSR for SLOT-1. Then either EZ-Flash V 3-in-1 or a M3 Lite for SLOT-2 (however, I may not get either if I get myself a M3DSR). And, by the way, since the EZ-Flash V 3-in-1 flash card does not have any firmware updates or kernal, is that particularly going to be an issue?
I guess I should also mention that I already have a MicroSD 2GB SanDisk card for my backups and homebrew. Has there been any problems and/or slowdowns related to using that particular card? Or should I return it and get a different brand?
What does everyone use as their current/favorite setup?
Recommendations for a beginner or an advanced user would be great as well.
I hope to be playing some !@#$% soon with my DS Lite. I can't wait.
Time to throw out that old GBA!
Greets,
-Prodix
I've done some research already on most of the various flash cards out there and tried to compare them in features, price, etc, as best I could. I feel though, that my findings are only mostly accurate, but I may be wrong. And to be honest, it is hard to find grammatically correct and understandable English up-to-date information and comparisons without going to (and checking) each of the individual websites and/or flash card products out (most of which, also have poorly translated manuals from what I hear). And after searching the forums, which really wasn't any better as most posts/replies and/or stickies/reviews were out-of-date or answered solely on popularity/usage/opinion, not so much on fact - of course, it'll still depend on my choice in the end either way. So, here's what I've concluded from my results (please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, or to just add something):
Slot-1 solutions:
R4 DS - Most popular, moderate in pricing, good DS game compatability + homebrew support, frequent updates, has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support for sleep mode but not SDHC, customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
M3 DS Simply (M3DSS) - Exact copy of the R4 DS (and manufactured by the same company - GBalpha), except with a few added wires, about the same as the R4 DS in popularity, about the same price as the R4 DS, good DS game compatability + homebrew support, somewhat slower updates (only after the R4 DS releases theirs), has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support[/i] for sleep mode but not SDHC, customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
M3 DS Real (M3DSR) - Vastly different than the R4 DS, exact copy of the G6 DS Real (and manufactured by the same company - GBalpha), uses same firmware from G4 DS Real, about the same as the R4 DS / M3 DS Simply / G6 DS Real in popularity, moderate in pricing, has good DS game capatability + homebrew support, somewhat slower updates (only after the G6 DS Real releases theirs), has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support for sleep and SDHC, customer support good?, also includes Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
Cyclo DS - Somewhat not as well-known, but still very popular, bit more expensive than the R4 DS / M3 series, best DS game compatability + homebrew support, frequent updates, has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support for sleep and SDHC, customer support good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
G6 DS Real (G6DSR) - Not as popular as the R4 DS / M3 / CycloDS series, manufactured by the same company as the R4 DS / M3 series (GBalpha), very expensive, good DS game compatability + homebrew support, frequent updates, has built-in 8Gbit (1GB) or 16Gbit (2GB) Nand flash memory, has no built-in memory reader, has support for sleep mode but not SDHC, customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
Supercard DS One - Not as popular as the R4 DS / M3 / CycloDS, exact copy of the M3 Simply (and manufactured by the same company - GBalpha), about the same price as the R4 DS / M3 series, somewhat good DS game compatability + homebrew support, somewhat slower updates (only after the M3 DS Simply releases theirs), has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), has support for sleep mode and SDHC, customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
EZ-FLASH V - To be researched.
Acekard RPG - To be researched.
DS Xtreme - To be researched.
DS Linker / N-Card - To be researched.
Others? - To be researched.
Slot-2 solutions:
M3 DS Real (M3DSR) Expansions - To be researched. No information out yet?
M3 Lite - Somewhat popular, expensive, DS support only, good DS + GBA compatability + homebrew support, frequent updates, has no built-in memory, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM packs, it is only a Game Expansion pack.
EZ-Flash V 3-in-1 - More popular than the M3 series, moderate in pricing, DS + Lite support, good DS + GBA compatability + homebrew support, no firmware updates, has built-in 256Mbit (32MB) Norflash, 128Mbit (16MB) PSRAM, and 2Mbit (250KB) SRAM memory, includes internal/integrated battery, has no built-in memory reader, customer support is good?, includes Rumble +/- RAM +/- Game Expansion packs.
EZ-Flash IV Lite - Not as popular as the M3 / EZ-Flash V series, three times as expensive as the EZ-Flash V 3-in-1, DS + Lite support, good DS + GBA compatability + homebrew support, no firmware updates, has built-in 384Mbit (48MB) NorFLASH, 256Mbit (32MB) PSRAM, and 8Mbit (1MB) SRAM memory, does not include internal/integrated battery, has built-in memory reader (MicroSD), customer support is good?, does not include Rumble +/- RAM packs, it is only a Game Expansion pack.
G6 Lite - To be researched.
Supercard Lite - To be researched.
eWin (credits to Eyedunno) - Not as popular as the M3 / EZ-Flash V / EZ-Flash IV / Supercard Lite series, moderate in pricing, DS Lite support only, good DS + GBA compatibility + homebrew support, infrequent updates, has built-in 256Mbit (32MB) SDRAM and 2Mbit (250KB) SRAM memory, includes internal/integrated battery, has no built-in memory reader, customer support is poor (Chinese only), does not include Rumble +/- RAM packs, it is only a Game Expansion pack.
Others? - To be researched.
There's my list. Once again, if anyone would like to add anything that I missed or stated incorrectly, feel free to post a reply. Hopefully this'll help other users that are in the same situation as I am.
Now, the main things in my purchase decision are mainly based on a few things. What I would like to have is good support for at least NDS backups, homebrew, download play, and multiplayer. If not those, then at least GBA support w/ a NDS Pass card of some sort.
I only plan on spending around $25 to $75 USD as a max for either one, or for both. So if anyone has any recommendations for cheap American or Canadian websites to buy from, that'd be great!
I'm leaning towards purchasing an R4 DS, Cyclo DS, or M3DSR for SLOT-1. Then either EZ-Flash V 3-in-1 or a M3 Lite for SLOT-2 (however, I may not get either if I get myself a M3DSR). And, by the way, since the EZ-Flash V 3-in-1 flash card does not have any firmware updates or kernal, is that particularly going to be an issue?
I guess I should also mention that I already have a MicroSD 2GB SanDisk card for my backups and homebrew. Has there been any problems and/or slowdowns related to using that particular card? Or should I return it and get a different brand?
What does everyone use as their current/favorite setup?
I hope to be playing some !@#$% soon with my DS Lite. I can't wait.
Greets,
-Prodix