Firmware 1.1.3 will never get released

Discussion in 'Other Flashing Hardware & Software' started by MrSpud, Mar 8, 2008.

Mar 8, 2008
  1. MrSpud
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    Well it just hit me, 1.1.3 was done a long time ago now, maybe six months, but it will never get released.

    The reason? I would guess because of legal problems associated with the arm7 protection. I think this must be the reason Ds-x is dead, they can't released a new firmware without breaking the law, so what's the point? This is just a guess but there's a reason why they WON'T release 1.1.3, a perfectly fine firmware. Maybe they are just doing out of spite? Hope not!

    It's been quite a while since 1.1.3 is out, they claim that it's almost perfect except for a bug or two but it wouldn't take this long to fix. They have no reason whatsoever to not release it and call it a beta.

    What do you guys think? Is it ever going to be released? If not, why do you think that is?
     
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    I disagree, for 2 major reasons;

    1. the protection in question (let's stop calling it "arm7" already; it's just another way of checking whether a real ROM is inserted into the NDS) is just one of the many protections and other things you have to do/bypass in order to enable the running of ROM dumps using a flashcart. If Nintendo went to court against DS-Xtreme, submitting v1.1.2 or v1.1.3 as evidence would hardly make a difference, would it?

    2. surely DS-Xtreme is one of the *least* used flashcarts? Wouldn't Nintendo rather go after R4/M3/etc, which has a huge professional manufacturing plant, advertises publicly on the Internet, and gains new customers every day? Does the fact that parts of Team Xodus aren't based in China/HK/whatever really make such a big difference?
     
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    It *leaked* so lets be happy about at least about this, cause its the only improvement we will see in another *few* months......
     
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    It's so much harder to sue a company in China than a company in USA...
     
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    pbolmstedt, you do have a point but It's much more difficult to sue a company from China, or Brasil or even where I'm from, Canada, since each country has their own laws. Not impossible, just a lot more difficult.

    I just think that Ds-x must have got in trouble at some point and got too scared to carry on. Someone got them by the balls and they got scared, just an assumption. Releasing a new firmware is like opening a new can of worms, better leave it alone.

    Either way, there must be a reason why 1.1.3 doesn't get released, it's not because of problems with the firmware itself, it must be other kind of problems.
     
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    I tend to agree with MrSpud. These guys simply underestimated the competition and chickened out of this gray market business. I think they do want to make 1.1.3 available, but not go through the hassle of supporting it.
     
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    i gave up on mine and just bought a new one a few weeks ago
     
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    it doesn't get released because the ds-x team does not care about it's customers. Period!
     
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    This is true, Ive seen it first hand, people get banned for asking the littlest of things.
     
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    You have to distinguish between the official board moderators and the development team. They aren't even in contact anymore, according to Rabid1's posts.
     
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    I had been really patient but I don't believe it will ever be out. And I notice yesterday and today their http://news.ds-x.com is offline and so are the forums
    http://forums.ds-xtreme.com. However the main site with old never updated info is still there www.ds-x.com So I think that is the final say or should it be
    nail in the coffin. I'm tired of waiting so my next purchase will be the Cyclo Ds. I'll be ordering it within the month with memory of course.

    Heck even bout half of the legal homebrew roms don't work with the DS-X anymore anyways expecially if they are wi-fi.
     
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    it's been down before, I'm sure both sites are hosted on the same server, so that would explain the reasoning for them being down. Nothing works for me, not even ds-x.com

    should sell your carts before they're officially done...
     
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    Why am I afraid there's a timebomb planted inside the firmware?
     
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    My guess:

    They work on and have many different projects. The thing is, they probably make most of them half-assed, and they just try to make the most money they can from all those projects. Some work great from start, some work bad, like the DS-X.
    It can be team Xodus like someone mentionned, it could be any other company we don't know about. They don't have to put an X at the begining or ending of each of their products...



    And my opinion :

    They really really don't have serious plans of supporting the DS-X. By now, logically, we'd either have seen them dissapear, or like right now, no news, and just some random facts thrown in the air. Dissapearing would crush the sales, so by staying around and just making false promises, they are keeping the sales "up".
     

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