Finally! Hack for Japanese Colosseum Bonus Disc for US games!

Discussion in 'Other Consoles & Oldies' started by daltonlaffs, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. Snugglevixen

    Snugglevixen Princess of Cuddles

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    Fakes tend to be English versions and who cares if it's fake if it will get you Celebi for your non fake game.
     
  2. cearp

    cearp 瓜老外

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    ah yeah i forgot to say - i think the fake ones won't connect/their save won't be read by the gc.
    maybe they will... but i don't think so.
     
  3. duwen

    duwen Old Man Yoshi

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    I've got a "semi-translated" Japanese bootleg Leaf Green cart (bought it on a market in Hong Kong before FR/LG had their localized releases) that connects fine with EU/Pal Pokemon Box (and probably Colosseum, but I've not tried it with that).
     
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  4. Snugglevixen

    Snugglevixen Princess of Cuddles

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    Yea, Chinese fake carts copy the pinouts and stuff of Nintendo's carts, I think a lot even use ROM or PROM instead of flash like flash carts use to avoid anti piracy ROM writes.
    I bet I could play my bootleg Pocket Monsters Green cart on my Japanese copy of Stadium GS without getting any errors about saving like I get when using a ROMcart with Stadium
     
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  5. Lumstar

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    So... Has it been confirmed whether Celebi or Pikachu are obtainable from PAL Colosseum, as with USA?
     
  6. suloku

    suloku GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    Sorry, I didn't understand your statement at first, but again, what you suggest requires real hardware/software with the bonus disk, the japanese colosseum and the japanese gba cart. This method only requires the japanese bonus disc to get a legit celebi on the USA/PAL savegames. You don't even need a real hardware copy of the disc if using dolphin (but that's piracy, so let's leave the topic there).

    Even more, you can use your own USA/PAL colosseum to get a legit celebi (without japanesse naming, some may think this makes it not legit, but at this point I don't think it really matters that much), no need for any jap setup.

    About dolphin GBA connectivity: last time I checked, it was far from working at any usable state, the pokemon games where incompatible.

    Celebi is adquirable from PAL colosseum (my PAL celebi ready savegame is on gamefaqs, I had to play it just for celebi, since the completed pal save that was there turned out to be a USA converted save wich won't work on PAL games, or at least the multi language version I have).

    I couldn't get pikachu, but I didn't mess much with that, also, I still don't know how are you supposed to get it. I messed with dolphin and the jap disc at the time, but didn't get it either, so I might be doing something wrong.
     
  7. Slyd

    Slyd Newbie

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    Can't manage to get working.
    Anyone have a PAL english/spanish colosseum save with Celebi?
     
  8. suloku

    suloku GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    Apparently there's been some work behind dolphin and VBA-M and the gba-ngc connection support has improved. I just received the USA jirachi using this method, I'll try with celebi, see if I can get it directly to a JAP gba cart. I might test pokemon channel too while I'm at it.

    Pokemon box is not working at the moment under dolphin, so I can't test with it.

    Here, there are several files, as well as information about editing the jap iso and using AR codes.

    The files:
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    01-GC6P-pokemon_colosseum_celebiesp: PAL/ESP savegame with received spanish Celebi. Name: Celebi OT: Ágata
        note: the spanish celebi's OT will show wrong from gen IV onwards due to the 'Á' character.
    
    01-GC6P-pokemon_colosseum_celebijap: PAL/ESP savegame with received japanesse Celebi (jap name and jap OT). This is the only true legit cebeli.
    
    01-GC6P-pokemon_colosseum_hoho_celebieng: PAL/ESP savegame with Ho-Ho and received english Celebi. Name: Celebi OT: Ageto
    
    01-GC6P-pokemon_colosseum_hoho: PAL/ESP savegame with 48 purified pokemon and Ho-Ho. No cebeli reveived.
        You can receive any language celebi (change language before enabling the cheatcode).
        The japanesse colosseum bonus disc can be edited to recognize the PAL/USA savegame and receive a japanesse celebi.
    
     

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  9. Slyd

    Slyd Newbie

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    Woah thanks, you're a lifesaver!
     
  10. suloku

    suloku GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    Good news everyone, it seems that now we can get both jirachi and celebi only using the PC emulators dolphin and VBA-M.
    I just transfered a celebi to a japanese gba with my EUR savefile on it. That means there's no need for real hardware anymore! All gen3 to gen5 pokemon can be played and catched in computer. Nice in case something happens to our GBA/GC.

    Also, an apology to Snugglevixen, he suggested using dolphin and he was right (but I don't know if he was aware that this is possible due to the recent updates in the gba-gc emulation).

    I've sent a jap savegame to gamefaqs (there wasn't any), ready to use with the colosseum bonus disc. The colosseum game isn't really needed for gba transfer.

    UPDATE: PAL pokemon channel works too for jirachi transfer. I guess pokemon box would work also, because the only thing it does is read the savefile from the game, and it works with the others, so no reason for not working, but the game is currently crashin on dolphin builds that support this new gba-gc connection
     
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  11. JFTS

    JFTS GBAtemp Regular

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    Sorry for reviving this old thread, but I had a relevant discussion with a friend and I wanted to ask here. What is the value of doing such a process to obtain a rare Pokemon? Can't you just get any Pokemon you want in any generation with an Action Replay or similar cheats? Seems to be overcomplicated to get all this equipment and software for transfering the files from an old game to the newer ones. Or is there an "ethical" reason behind it, like obtaining the rare Celebi without using cheats.

    I'm not trying to be ironic, just to understand the reason behind the process.
     
  12. suloku

    suloku GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    The only point is getting it the legit way without cheats. If you don't mind cheating it in, do so. It is less cheating getting the .pkm file into one of your saves that using a code to generate it, and still fairly simple.
    The fact is that celebi was never distributed outside japan, making this the only way to obtain celebi in generation III. And it still works nowadays with real hardware.
    Some people just like things to be like they were meant to be, I love having this celebi in my gba cartridge alongside the other 395 pokemon and knowing I catched them all the way the creators of the game intended me to do it.

    If you achieve something effortless, it can't really be considered an achievement. It just comes down to one's personal feelings about it.
     
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  13. JFTS

    JFTS GBAtemp Regular

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    Ok, I got it. Thanks for the answer.

    I thought there might possibly be a difference in something like a Pokemon ID/serial number, distinguishing genuinely obtained Pokemon from cheats.
     
  14. Lumstar

    Lumstar Princess

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    Sometimes a thorough job to hide cheating takes a bit more. When you have to make the game believe the steps to obtain the Pokemon actually occurred. (by placing their event items in the bag, and so forth)
     
  15. JFTS

    JFTS GBAtemp Regular

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    Could you explain this a bit more? Do you mean there is actually a difference between a genuinely caught Pokemon and one obtained with cheats?
     
  16. Lumstar

    Lumstar Princess

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    Maybe not the Pokemon itself. But by looking around the game, you can find other signs cheats were used.

    Shaymin for example. As the original trainer of a Shaymin caught at the Flower Paradise, you need to possess the Oak's Letter item and have the location marked as visited on the Town Map, or it'll be obvious there was cheating.
     
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  17. JFTS

    JFTS GBAtemp Regular

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    I see. Just one more thing. In online (or not) Pokemon tournaments, are you required to have genuine caught and trained Pokemon or anything goes? I mean for example, anyone with cheats can have the rarest, most powerful Pokemon with max stats, best natures etc. Which in turn makes it unfair for someone who has assembled and trained a team manually.

    Is there any kind of penalty? I haven't played the latest Pokemon games, but I do remember similar situations in generations III and IV.
     
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  18. suloku

    suloku GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    There are many threads (elsewhere) about pokemon legality.
    For a pokemon to be considered legal the condition is that that very same pokemon could theoretically be obtained without any cheats.

    For example, there was an unreleased event in gen IV that allowed you to catch Arceus, but since that event was never released, that Arceus is illegal, even though the pokemon itself is perfectly fine.

    Another fact is that nintendo doesn't check absolutely everything so a pokemon with wrong data can pass the legality check (for example in generation VI a pokemon with impossible "memories" will pass the check).
    And there are cases where nintendo blocks a perfectly legit pokemon, if I recall correctly there was a competition a couple months ago that banned a level 50 goodra (it required the pokemon to be level 55 I think), but goodra evolves at level 50.
    Also shiny jirachi was banned from pokemon bank until it was released in generation VI, but it is possible to obtain a gen III shiny jirachi without cheating from the colosseum bonus disk.

    If you know what you are doing you can hack any pokemon and it would seem legit.
     
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  19. JFTS

    JFTS GBAtemp Regular

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    Ok, now it's clear. Thanks again.:)
     
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  20. Jay_

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    Here's the guide I wrote on how to connect VBA-M & Dolphin when I discovered they could be connected

    Anyways, I can obtain the Pikachu written directly to the JPN Colosseum file but does anybody know what the second option on the Poke-coupon (Pikachu menu) is for?

    As you can see here, I've got 30,000 poke-coupons on my Colo save file

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    And after selecting the second option to link to the GBA, I can establish a link

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    But after the link is established, it says I'm not eligible to receive Pikachu and asks me to turn off the GBA (and my poke-coupons now say 0)

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    Does anybody know why this is or how to successfully transfer a Pikachu from the bonus disc directly to GBA?

    I realize it isn't a high priority for you because the Pikachu is able to be written directly to the Colo save file, but I'm concerned with RNG abusing the Celebi and Pikachu. In order to do that I have to be able to send Pikachu directly to the GBA.
     
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