Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age TGS 2016 trailer

leon315 · Sep 19, 2016

NEXTGEN CONSOLES= welcome to the age of Remasters

Onepunchbruh · Sep 19, 2016

Noice! PC?

Hyro-Sama · Sep 19, 2016

Square-Enix finally releasing an interesting game for once.

Roxe__ · Sep 19, 2016

Hyro-Sama said:
Square-Enix finally releasing an interesting game for once.

LMAO i loved this game so much!
I'm expecting a PC port 2 months after release!

HaloEliteLegend · Sep 19, 2016

All these upcoming Square Enix games keep nagging me to buy a PS4 this holiday. With the slim and the pro out soon, I could probably get a good deal on a used base model PS4 on eBay or something. Still, I would love if this game and others (lookin' at you FFXV) came to PC sometime in the future. I'm fine with waiting, but I'd rather not have to purchase new hardware to play it if I don't need to.

Roxe__ · Sep 19, 2016

HaloEliteLegend said:
All these upcoming Square Enix games keep nagging me to buy a PS4 this holiday. With the slim and the pro out soon, I could probably get a good deal on a used base model PS4 on eBay or something. Still, I would love if this game and others (lookin' at you FFXV) came to PC sometime in the future. I'm fine with waiting, but I'd rather not have to purchase new hardware to play it if I don't need to.

Like i said before games like FFXV and FFXII remaster will for sure come out on the PC, you'll just have to wait a bit longer. Here's a perfect example of this in the past:
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD PS4 release date: 3/17/2015 PC release date: 8/18/2015
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster PS4 release date: 5/12/2015 PC release date: 5/12/2016

If we just hold on to our money for the proper version we win in terms of a better quality game, and in terms of showing companies like SE that many people play on PC

Pluupy · Sep 19, 2016

When SquareEnix releases anything Ivalice-related

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Haider Raza said:
Noice! PC?

Yes it was leaked that it was going to PC sometime shortly before FFX HD was released to PC.

VitaType · Sep 20, 2016

And this is the famous remaster that even with some effect disabeling is according to SquareEnix completely impossible to port to Vita?
Sure -.-

HaloEliteLegend · Sep 22, 2016

Roxe__ said:
Like i said before games like FFXV and FFXII remaster will for sure come out on the PC, you'll just have to wait a bit longer. Here's a perfect example of this in the past:
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD PS4 release date: 3/17/2015 PC release date: 8/18/2015
Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster PS4 release date: 5/12/2015 PC release date: 5/12/2016

If we just hold on to our money for the proper version we win in terms of a better quality game, and in terms of showing companies like SE that many people play on PC

That's true, that's true. They also ported over the XIII trilogy when they said they weren't going to. I'll hold out for PC on those, because I would rather play on PC. Once the Nintendo NX is officially unveiled, if I want to buy that instead, then I'll forego the PS4, because at the very least some of those games are likely to come to the NX. DragonQuest 11 is already confirmed for NX.

Hey, more incentive for developers to come to PC is always good ^-^

Roxe__ · Sep 22, 2016

HaloEliteLegend said:
That's true, that's true. They also ported over the XIII trilogy when they said they weren't going to. I'll hold out for PC on those, because I would rather play on PC. Once the Nintendo NX is officially unveiled, if I want to buy that instead, then I'll forego the PS4, because at the very least some of those games are likely to come to the NX. DragonQuest 11 is already confirmed for NX.

Hey, more incentive for developers to come to PC is always good ^-^

IDK why they call it porting to PC, because when you think about it any game developed is made on PC first, then ported to a console, so ultimately all they have to do is release the unported original. But they want to sit there and act like they're throwing us PC players a bone, RRRRRRRIIIIIGHHT, okay.

Spore2 · Sep 22, 2016

Already looks as good on PCSX2 running at high resolution. I don't see the point of this.

VitaType · Sep 22, 2016

Roxe__ said:
any game developed is made on PC first, then ported to a console, so ultimately all they have to do is release the unported original

No. Just because you write the sourc code on a PC and you compile it on a PC dosn't means that the program which is outputed by the compiler can be executed on a PC.
It's called cross compiler and then you have to move the program to the target hardware to test it (yes, every single time you want to test the build. To make this process of moving the game to the console more easy (and for some debugging features) there are so called developer versions (sometimes developer board) of all consoles).

But fact is that most games today a written with a graphic engine which is available for multiple platfroms (e.g. all consoles of a generation and PC/Window), this games can easily be ported (there are often some libraries and game engine parts that need to be ported first, but nothing to much of a hassle compared with what was needed to do in earlier times).
But for every port you need to do all the testing again which costs a fair amount of money.

HaloEliteLegend · Sep 25, 2016

Roxe__ said:
IDK why they call it porting to PC, because when you think about it any game developed is made on PC first, then ported to a console, so ultimately all they have to do is release the unported original. But they want to sit there and act like they're throwing us PC players a bone, RRRRRRRIIIIIGHHT, okay.

That's true, haha. Although the engines they use may be SDKs for consoles and meant to function on their proprietary hardware. The game is made on PC, but optimized the heck for consoles, so there's a lot of re-writing that needs to be done to bring it /back/ to the PC.

But really, why avoid PC? Just look at these numbers:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/...the-pc-is-the-worlds-biggest-gaming-platform/
Imagine the sales you could get if your game is well-received on the likes of Steam!

Roxe__ · Sep 25, 2016

HaloEliteLegend said:
That's true, haha. Although the engines they use may be SDKs for consoles and meant to function on their proprietary hardware. The game is made on PC, but optimized the heck for consoles, so there's a lot of re-writing that needs to be done to bring it /back/ to the PC.

But really, why avoid PC? Just look at these numbers:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/...the-pc-is-the-worlds-biggest-gaming-platform/
Imagine the sales you could get if your game is well-received on the likes of Steam!

HAAAH, OPTIMIZED? More like nerfed to be played on a console, lol! I understand why they're avoiding the PC, I just don't get how they think they can control people like that, most of us are just not that stupid. But i totally agree with you!

@VitaType I do understand how a game is made, but you also have to agree with me that most of today's graphical engines use and branch out from PC as the base. Not to mention that you have systems like Xbox-Scorpio coming out, which is suppose to be as if you were playing said game on PC.

HaloEliteLegend · Sep 26, 2016

Roxe__ said:
HAAAH, OPTIMIZED? More like nerfed to be played on a console, lol! I understand why they're avoiding the PC, I just don't get how they think they can control people like that, most of us are just not that stupid. But i totally agree with you!

@VitaType I do understand how a game is made, but you also have to agree with me that most of today's graphical engines use and branch out from PC as the base. Not to mention that you have systems like Xbox-Scorpio coming out, which is suppose to be as if you were playing said game on PC.

Hey, don't look at me when "optimize" means "nerf" ;D

Let's not forget that thanks to x86 and DirectX, PCs and consoles share a unified architecture and games can be ported super easily between 'em. That's another reason for the massive resurgence of PC (even though, ironically, games all start life as PC games, haha). They "optimize" so much that when they decide to roll back and launch on PC, they have to untangle their mess to get it working on any other hardware except the one they optimized for. Back in the day, consoles were stronger than PCs (PS2/Xbox/GameCube era). PCs caught up near the start of the 360/PS3 era, but consoles had long been established enterprises by then that they were more profitable than PC. Enter Valve and Steam, enter "next-gen" consoles lauded for how outdated they are. A platform with consumer-friendly DRM for protection that's bigger than all consoles combined? Now you have a huge PC boom.

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