FFIV DS: What you need to know, spoiler free

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Jul 21, 2008
  1. Raganook
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    Hello all! This is Raganook, one of the three who translated and coded the FFIV DS Japanese Translation patch.



    First of all, I really should have said 99% spoiler free, because there is one "spoiler" you should really know about prior to playing. In order to really glean all there is from this title, as well as challenge all that it has to offer, you must complete the game a second time in "New Game +", a feature unavailable in the original.

    I decided to compile a short guide for those of you who have never played FFIV so that you make sure you don't miss anything! I will mainly focus on Decant Abilities, as they are not only confusing, but esential to strategically plan if you intend on building a powerful enough party in your second run through the take on the games REAL challenges...

    Useful Information: Runthrough 1

    Background

    In the DS remake there is something callent "Decant Abilities" (in the Japanese version...dunno what they will call it in this version). Basically, many characters in FFIV come and go, and each with unique abilities. In the original, once a party member leaves your party, their special abilities are also lost.

    Not so in the DS version! At certain storyline points, a character will impart their abilities to you in the form of a Decant Item, which you can then use on a character of your choice, and then they will in turn gain that ability.

    But thats not all! All characters have "hidden" abilities, abilities they never master themselves. You can get them to impart those techniques into Decant items to teach to your other party members.

    Also worth mentioning is that many Decants are found hidden throughout the game instead of being imparted to you by characters.

    Methedology

    So this is how it works. Each character has a total of 3 Decant abilities that they can teach you. To receive the first Decant, you just need to progress to the appropriate point in the story line. To receive the second, the character in question MUST have learned a Decant Ability prior to this moment. To receive the third, the character in question MUST have learned two Decant Abilities prior to this moment.

    So, for example, if you never taught Tellah any Decants, then at a specific point in the story, you will only receive Recall. If you taught him one Decant, he will give you Recall and Brace. Two Decants learned yields Recall, Brace and Tongue Tied. Make sense? So long as each character learns 2 Decant abilities, they will impart ALL their abilities.

    There is ONE exception. In order to receive all three Decants for a certain pair of Twins, you must teach one of them 2 Decants, and one of them only 1 Decant.

    Important Note!

    It is impossible to get EVERY Decant your first time through. That is why there is New Game +! After you beat the game, you will have the chance to start over, and any Decant Abilities unused will remain in your inventory so that you can gain Decants you missed. In addition, during your second runthrough, any Decants you taught to characters in the last runthrough KEEP them. So if you taught Tellah APotion and Alch, he will have them from the get-go during your second runthrough! This also means he will impart all three of his Decant Abilities to your party again during a certain storyline event; he already has two Decants! So if you want TWO characters to have Double Cast, by all means!

    Characters that DO NOT yield Decant Abilities

    If they are not listed below, they don't yield Decant Abilities.

    One-Shot Decants

    Darkness - Stolen from Odin
    Treasure Hunter - Must get 100% on all maps, and many maps are one-time visits! Important: There is one point in the game where you enter a certain Tower. You will NOT be able to get 100% on all the maps within it the first time you enter it, so don't fret! Just cover all the ground you can!

    Character Decants

    =Name=
    # of Decants Taught - Name - Explanation


    =A wise and elderly Sage...=
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    =Wields the deadly...harp....=
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    =A monk of Fabul=
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    =Twins!=
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    =Royal servant of the King=
    Warning: Spoilers inside!
    =Builder of Airships=
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    =A helping hand during giant distress=
    Warning: Spoilers inside!

    Other Useful Information

    *Throughout your quest, you may be fortunate to run into an item ending with "Tail", such as "Green Tail". These items WILL TRANSFER to your New Game +. They are used to make some of the best stuff in the game, and both the tails AND their corresponding equipment transfer over when you do a New Game +.

    *Re-visit the areas where you fought Elemental Fiends to get incredibly powerful Decants

    *Save your most powerful Decants for the end of the game. Your party is a rotating door, you will have NO idea who the ending party will be. Until you succesfully enter the very last dungeon (and trust me, you will KNOW what it is), do not assume any character you have will remain with you!

    *Be sure to steal from the boss of the game. You need the item stolen in order to access the greatest secret of the game, only available in your second playthrough.

    Useful Information: Runthrough 2 (UPDATED 7/25)

    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     


  2. Raganook
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    DO NOT REPLY TO THIS TOPIC WITHOUT TRIPLE-CHECKING TO MAKE SURE YOUR MESSAGE CONTAINS NO SPOILERS.

    This topic is to remain a spoiler-free guide for those who have never played FFIV.

    If you cannot relay the information you believe should be added without spoiling something, PM it to me, and I will un-spoilerify it for you!
     
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    Damn that's some good info. Very nice explanation of the Decant Abilities, and something I wish I had learned before my first playthrough.

    One random question: I doubt there is a way to do this, but do you know of any way to restart a new game +? I have an old save that is about 15% through my second game. I want to restart it at the beginning of the second playthrough so I can take a different path with the Decant Abilities. Any ideas? Starting completely over is out of the question. I got 5 pink tails in my first playthrough, and I'd rather like to keep them.

    Worst case, I'll just play the second and third games again. Nothing else good is coming out until fall anyway.
     
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    You cannot restart an in-progress new game +

    However, the game WILL let you do a New Game ++. So you COULD beat the game a second time, and do things right on the third.

    Be warned, however: There is NO restarting a fourth game. After you beat it your third time, you CANNOT continue it!
     
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    [​IMG] That's what I figured. I already have a save ready and waiting for the (U) version at the beginning of the third game, but I wanted to go all the way back to the beginning of the second using an old save if I could. Guess I'll just have to live with my bad DA strategy.

    Listen to Raganook people. Plan ahead and use the DA system right the first time.
     
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    Warning: Spoilers inside!
     
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    Corrected [​IMG]
     
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    Err, I thought the equipment you got from the tails also carried over? So, you can get it whenever, and not have to wait?
     
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    Yeah, that part's false Raganook. If you trade in the tails for items, the items carry over. I can confirm that 100% as I am staring at an inventory list right now containing my carried over items.
     
  10. Raganook
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    I just tried it, you're right. 1st post edited to reflect it [​IMG]
     
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    Raganook, have you played the (U) version yet?

    When I try to load a (J) save in the (U) version, I get black screens. I really need someone else to confirm this for me, and I'm guessing you have (J) saves you could try.

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
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    Loaded just fine. No black screens or anything =/
     
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    where the hell is the first save point? i just got my ass handed to me in the cave right in the start [​IMG]
     
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    You save at the world map.
     
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    That's what manuals are for. [​IMG]
     
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    Nice one Raganook didn't know half of this stuff.
    *Prints*
     
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    I'm sure most of us here would have the manual, right. [​IMG]
     
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    Avoid the freaking centepede monster things on your way to the first cave. they OHKO you with thier earthquake attack. I had to learn the hard way [​IMG] poor 20 mins of work
     
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    Glad I could help. [​IMG]
     

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