EU Court Rules That Downloadable Games Can Be Resold By Consumers

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    This looks like trouble for services such as Steam, Origin, GOG and even the PlayStation Store and Xbox Live Marketplace. An EU court, more specifically the Court of Justice, has ruled that publishers cannot stop you from re-selling games that you have bought and downloaded.

    "An author of software cannot oppose the resale of his 'used' licences allowing the use of his programs downloaded from the internet."

    This ruling effectively means that you could buy a game from Steam, complete it in a day and then sell it on straight away to a friend, regardless of any EULAs that have been signed by the consumer. This is a huge blow to corporations, but a massive step forward for gamers everywhere. Well; in the EU at least.

    For more in-depth information on the ruling visit the source link below.


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    Man, now I won't have to waste all of those $5 I spent on that Steam game I got on sale. Fuck yeah being a cheap ass!
     
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    This is going to cause a shitstorm of license management for literally EVERYONE, not just companies that sell digital games.

    Microsoft, Apple, Adobe, Norton, just about digital software produced for PC for example. They may have to accomodate ways for users to sell their digital copy to another and revoke their license.
     
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    Hopefully this will put a end to restrictive DRM, this is the only thing that is holding digital downloads back, especially on the ps3, you can't gameshare as Sony ban you for doing so.

    I hope in the future something can be done about forcing you to be online when playing a single player game, that is very annoying.
     
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    1. Buy awesome game on Indie Bundle
    2. Wait for Indie Bundle to end
    3. Sell the uber-cheap game for normalprice-15%
    4. ????
    5. PROFIT !!!

    Additional step: buy more than one indie bundle, repeat steps for X number of copies for additional profit
     
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    How in the hell do you re-sell downloadable games?
     
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    The problem I see here is that Steam/Origin need to include the ability for you to sell games (or at least a transfer licence thing), and I don't see that happening.

    I am also not too sure either if they lawfully need to include such an option or wether this law is more applicable to for example CD-Key like systems where you don't need to have your games tied to an account, where there wouldn't be anything stopping you from selling on a game other than the EULA.
     
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    You pretty much sell your account. So you have a account with 1+ game on it pretty much. If you gameshare using one method for the PS3 you'll have a lot of accounts.
     
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    QFT. It's weird but I just found out about this like yesterday, and now this (great) news comes up. You could trade accounts before, but it was a very shady way and people got banned sometimes by Steam.
    This is really a MAJOR hit for Steam and Origin and all that shit, no I can just buy a Steam acc with like 10 games on it for 20 USD (if I would buy those 10 games via Steam store, I would lose about 100 USD), and Steam can't do anything anymore to stop it.....
     
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    Ya, you do risk getting banned but since if you do this frequently you'll only have one game on your account it isn't a big deal since you weren't going to go back and play it probably.
     
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    I should think not too, you paid your cash for the game, so that game becomes your property, and what you do with your own property is your business.

    I can see this becoming a minefield for downloadable games tho, especially with the Ubi Soft titles.
     
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    That, my dear fellow, is why hackers are a godsend. They make those who paid for legit games not suffer for long; I once purchased Splinter Cell Conviction for the PC, then after a year, I had to reinstall Windows. Guess what? I couldn't obtain the license key Ubisoft gave for the game, I would have to buy the game again, so, I installed a patch that removed the DRM. And companies wonder why piracy is rampant.

    You know what they say, Karma is a real b**ch.
     
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    Actually as far as I know as part of a earlier statement keys may still be bound to accounts; it is just that selling your account would not be illegal nor would it be illegal what those cd key resellers are doing.
     
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    Finally! It only makes sense that you should be able to sell something that you bought and own.
     
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    Here's where they have a chance to make things right.

    Steam, being a digital rights distributor, could easily make games tradeable and/or resellable. However, if they add a surcharge to all transactions of that nature, it would appease the courts, the copyright owners, and the users.

    I have no problem paying $2 to swap Steam games with someone if I know that $2 goes to developers.
     
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    This is a major hit for companies who have been slowly trying to ease their way into selling all their products (in this matter Games) online and not through Discs(whichever format) with one of their sole excuses being piracy, but now with this order it is gonna start biting them back in real painful way :yay:
     
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    I'm sorry but this whole dickish attitude just gets to me.

    You're complaining about these companies trying to rip you off when they're selling you luxury products that you play. Then, to congratulate them for a product you enjoyed, you just spit in their face and try to "bite them back" by selling their products to someone else so they get jack squat. I don't care if you do game trading or something, but doing it with the attitude of "sticking it to the man" over a pure luxury product for things you enjoy is just really fucking annoying.

    I wish gamers would stop being complaining, bitchy assholes and just enjoyed the games they purchased instead of trying to spite the people who make their entertainment.
     
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    This is great news from a right standpoint (it's a blow to companies trying to remove consumer rights), but as stated it's going to be a hassle on companies like steam.

    Not surprised this is in the EU, which is known for this sort of thing (strong consumer protection laws, like the ones that came into play during the PS3 OtherOS removal situation).
     
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    You can resell most software. some software tied specifically to a machine allows for the transfer between users.

    this may give Nintendo cold feet about selling retail games as downloads for the wiiu
     
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    Great news,
    it looks corporations will have a lot of trouble with this,
    but for almost every consumer, this could be nothing but good news
     

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