Gaming Etrian Odyssey III: The Drowned City

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Zomg zomg.


Anyway, I'm gonna go to bed.
Here's hoping it'll finally be out by tomorrow!
 

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EO III has improved things a lot.

I think you should just try it out.
If you don't like it after an hour -
Well, decide for yourself. ^-^

But now I'm really going to sleep. >->
 

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Has anyone actually dumped the ROM from their store bought version to see if it has the same issues as the ROM that's floating around the internet?
 

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Exhumed said:
Has anyone actually dumped the ROM from their store bought version to see if it has the same issues as the ROM that's floating around the internet?

If someone had,none of us would be complaining right now? Iono
Don't think anyone has the 'resources' to do it.
We're waiting for a group to 'officially' dump the game if they would. Since.. no one would exactly 'fix' the unofficial one that was just dumped a few days ago

But yeh. Think everyones already impatient. Guess a few more days or week won't hurt.
Not the end of the world xD But looking forward to play the game =)
 

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dgwillia said:
I was checking around on some other nights, and apparently it seems like the issue IS that it is overtrimmed.
I wonder how that happened. Always share the untrimmed rom so it can be screwed up by the end user. I bet the dumping teams are watching this thread and waiting just to make us more and more impatient before an official release.
 

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impizkit said:
dgwillia said:
I was checking around on some other nights, and apparently it seems like the issue IS that it is overtrimmed.
I wonder how that happened. Always share the untrimmed rom so it can be screwed up by the end user. I bet the dumping teams are watching this thread and waiting just to make us more and more impatient before an official release.

Meh, i stopped caring
 

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I'm pretty new to DS stuff. What does overtrimmed mean?

Also I thought it was pretty easy to dump a game. Isn't all you need a DSlite and that NDS Backup Tool? I've used it to get off save files, but I haven't tried with a game yet.
 

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My understanding is that game cartridges are all standard sizes (32, 64, 128), but not all games need to use all that space, so the leftover space can be trimmed. Certain ROM dumping tools will automatically trim that padded space, which I believe makes the file smaller. Overtrimming is when the tool trims too much space and causes the ROM to malfunction (which might be anything from freezing to not working at all).

A 'proper' ROM should retain the cartridges' original size, padding the extra space with zeros. Certain dumping tools will ensure that a ROM is never overtrimmed, but the person who dumped their copy didn't use those tools (it was the first time they ever tried, apparently).


edit: Just to relate to this particular game, we know what the cartridge size is supposed to be, because we already have a clean (proper, untrimmed) ROM of the Japanese version. The ROM that was dumped is a different size, it doesn't have the zeros that padded the Japanese version.
 

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Somebody on a different site said they got this popping up when they tired it in something:

Reading beyond end of cart! ... 0202DA00 > 02000000

Seems like further evidence that it was overtrimmed.
 

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Thanks for the info!
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I wish I had preordered the game so I could get the art book now, and I could have dumped the game myself. Perfect 20/20 hindsight. I did try dumping one of my other games and it worked fine on my acekard 2i. I will look around on the net to see if I can get a copy of the game with artbook for normal price (yeah I'm optimistic), if not I may go out and buy the game so I can dump it tomorrow
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Hi guys, just like you, i am in a state of intense frustration...

Now the question being:


If i play this game with the overtrimmed rom (without having access to certain skills and Boat quests) and save... will this save be compatible with the "hopefully good rom" that will eventually be posted by a scene group as long as i change the .sav file according to the new rom's name?

Or will it be incompatible and will i have wasted hours of gameplay?

Thanks a lot for a SPEEDY answer, i just can't stand the wait anymore.
 
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