Hacking Equipment for soldering? and YAOSM parts?

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I figured I'd get this stuff and learn to solder. Then I'd buy the equipment to build the programmer and get that done, and finally install the chip into my Wii. Here's the stuff I'd buy for soldering:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.js...rentPage=search
-15 Watt Soldering Iron, $8.99 at Radioshack
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.js...rentPage=search
-Rosin Core Solder (1.5 ounces), $3.29 at Radioshack
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.js...rentPage=search
-Flux (2 ounces), $5.99 at Radioshack
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.js...ctId=2062640&cp
-30AWG Wire, $3.99 at Radioshack

I was wondering about whether I should get Silver Bearing Solder instead of the Rosin Core Solder. I'm a n00b so I don't really know. I have wire strippers already. I thought a clamp might be useful, but I can't seem to find that. Any suggestions?

Also, any suggestions on how I can save money on this stuff? When I add it all up, it seems kinda pricey...$31 seems like a bit much.

Also, what parts would I need for the YAOSM programmer and mod chip? Where should I order the stuff from? I was thinking about ordering from Mouser Electronics...I could probably get the soldering stuff from them too. Here are the parts I'm buying for the YAOSM and Programmer:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.js...ctId=2104052&cp
-Pre-drilled PCB

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail...579-PIC12F629IP
-YAOSM PIC Chip
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail...-UVR1E100MDD1TD
-Electrolytic Capacitor
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail...0-CFS1%2f4C103J
-10 KOhm resistor
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail...S1%2f4CT52R222J
-3x 2.2KOhm resistors
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail...alkey512-1N4148
-Diode
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail...lkey512-1N4734A
-5.6V Zener Diode
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail...y571-1-390261-2
-2x DIP8 Socket
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail...y737-DE09-SD-SL
-DB9 Female Connector

Not bad since it comes out to $2.95...though shipping at $6-$7 is kinda pricey.

The list of parts that I needed were listed in the "YAOSM from Scratch" pdf on the YAOSM forums. I'm not sure that I understand the diagram though...are there any other designs for the programmer? Or could someone explain it to me?

Also, would I just buy 2 of the socket used for the programmer, so that I would have one for the programmer, and one that I would solder to the Wii which would hold the YAOSM chip, so that I could remove it for programming?

Should I buy any extras of the parts from Mouser for the YAOSM? Like, just in case?

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Hey, I'm also planning on programming a YAOSM chip. Hopefully it comes tomorrow.
Instead of the the "YAOSM from scratch", I ordered parts from bell's post in "yaosm resources"
Bell's post with schematics

I have some knowledge about soldering, so I already have the equipment. I don't know about radioshack prices, since they seem to fluctuate between different products. I like them for some electronic components which I need to get quickly, but the rest of the stuff there seem way overpriced.

Anyway, I'll tell you what I'm getting. I'm buying my stuff from Newark Electronics. They seem to have better prices, even with shipping, and also, I like their search with the pictures.

As per bell's programmer, I'm getting
2x 12F683 PIC chips
2x DIP8 sockets
A D-sub connector
BS170G MOSFET
10k, 22k, 2.2k ohm resistors

The MOSFET, i believe, will allow you to erase the PIC, for future writings, if need be. The Zener does not allow that, as it is just a passive diode.
I am getting 2 sockets, for your reasons exactly

Lastly, the 12F683 chips have more memory than the 12f629 chips, which will allow for future bigger files sizes for programming. Already, some features need to be taken out of the 12f629 chips which can be left in the 12f683's.

Anyway, I hope that there can be two more followers of YAOSM soon
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Hey, I'm also planning on programming a YAOSM chip. Hopefully it comes tomorrow.
Instead of the the "YAOSM from scratch", I ordered parts from bell's post in "yaosm resources"
Bell's post with schematics

I have some knowledge about soldering, so I already have the equipment. I don't know about radioshack prices, since they seem to fluctuate between different products. I like them for some electronic components which I need to get quickly, but the rest of the stuff there seem way overpriced.

Anyway, I'll tell you what I'm getting. I'm buying my stuff from Newark Electronics. They seem to have better prices, even with shipping, and also, I like their search with the pictures.

As per bell's programmer, I'm getting
2x 12F683 PIC chips
2x DIP8 sockets
A D-sub connector
BS170G MOSFET
10k, 22k, 2.2k ohm resistors

The MOSFET, i believe, will allow you to erase the PIC, for future writings, if need be. The Zener does not allow that, as it is just a passive diode.
I am getting 2 sockets, for your reasons exactly

Lastly, the 12F683 chips have more memory than the 12f629 chips, which will allow for future bigger files sizes for programming. Already, some features need to be taken out of the 12f629 chips which can be left in the 12f683's.

Anyway, I hope that there can be two more followers of YAOSM soon 
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Thanks for the advice. Since Bell is the one writing YAOSM, his design is probably better
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I'll try seeing if Mouser carries the equipment for Soldering. I'll make the shipping cost worth it, and I bet they charge far less.
 

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I edited my order to get the stuff that Bell got for his programmer, and some desoldering braid and a desoldering bulb.

I was wondering, but is it necessary for me to buy flux? Not sure how that would I would actually apply it. Many have said that the flux that's in the rosin core solder is enough, but I don't really know.

I figured I'd screw around with old remote controls before I actually build the programmer or install the chip.
 

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Do not buy the PIC, get one free from sample Microchip.com. The shipping is excellent, I got my PICs in three days, shipping from Thailand to Michigan.
 

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Do not buy the PIC, get one free from sample Microchip.com. The shipping is excellent, I got my PICs in three days, shipping from Thailand to Michigan.

Thanks for the advice!

UPDATE: Gah, can't even use my ISP email to order samples
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Oh well. It's only...what $2 more?

Now if only I could use my play-asia affiliate credit to get a triwing screwdriver...
 

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Do not buy the PIC, get one free from sample Microchip.com. The shipping is excellent, I got my PICs in three days, shipping from Thailand to Michigan.


UPDATE: Gah, can't even use my ISP email to order samples
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Ugh, sucks, I have a domain of my own and used an e-mail there to request the samples.

Hmmm...I just realized that I could probably do that. But, meh. I'll just save myself the trouble and buy em. I have to buy other parts anyways, so it only jacks up the cost...$2?
 

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