Encryption chip to end videogame piracy

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May 27, 2008
  1. Scorpin200
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    Atari founder Nolan Bushnell seems to think so.
    While speaking at a conference, Atari founder Nolan Bushnell suggested that game piracy will soon be a thing of the past, thanks to a new chip that is currently in production.

    He pointed out that this stealth encryption chip (called a TPM) is being installed on the motherboards of most of the new computers that are being built. He believes that it will open up revenue prospects in areas such as Asia and India -- which have previously been notorious hotbeds of piracy -- as the chip will be able to "encrypt with an absolutely verifiable private key in the encryption world -- which is uncrackable by people on the internet and by giving away passwords -- which will allow for a huge market to develop in some of the areas where piracy has been a real problem."

    While this should prove to be good news for software developers, Bushnell believes that piracy of movies and music will continue to be an unstoppable force because "if you can watch it and you can hear it, you can copy it. Games are a different thing, because games are so integrated with the code. The TPM will, in fact, absolutely stop piracy of gameplay."




    Don't these guys ever give up they are just making hackers smarter than they already are compared to programmers. [​IMG]
     
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    Well that can save pc gaming or kill it. Anyway everything is hackable, it's just takes some time. And I doub that every motherboard producer will include those chips into their products.
     
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    And what about all of us WITHOUT that chip [​IMG]?
     
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    people won't buy anything that has a chip like this so they will just not use anymore after a while
     
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    Those chips have been inside motherboards for ages now. Chances are if you've bought a board in the past couple of years then you've got it. Either way, it's only a matter of time before there is a) A backlash big enough to put a stop to it, or b) It's cracked easy as pie.
     
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    What do you think would happen to DS Lite sales if piracy went away completely? They would go in the toilet!

    The funny thing about stories like this is that deep down, video game companies LIKE piracy. Do you think Nintendo would be selling nearly as many DSs if people didn't have their nifty little flash carts and those hundreds of roms? No. Movie and music producers definitely want to kill piracy because they don't make money off all the ipods and dvd players that sell because of them. So, as long as video game piracy stays under an "acceptable level", like maybe 5-10%, they will never make a serious, concerted effort to wipe it out completely. Hardware and Software manufacturers will keep making statements like this in the media every few months, just to keep piracy down to a minimal level.

    Now, if we ever get to a day when 40-50% or more of all DS owners are pirating software, that's when it will happen. But we aren't anywhere close to that day yet.
     
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    It will just make board manufactures who sell boards without the chip loads of cash as everyone goes to grab them. You will end up seeing DX selling them cheap like flashcarts.
     
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    Didn't the developers of HD-DVD and the Blue Ray say that the encryption they used to prevent piracy would never be cracked and is completely hacker proof at one point and they got cracked or a work around was found in less than a year? Even if you use an encryption chip and so on, where there is a will, there is a way. Its only a matter of time before a hacker cracks it and makes piracy possible.
     
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    I believe Sony claimed a 10 year crack free period. As you pointed out, it didn't last long.
    Most encryption isn't there to stop the 'professional' crackers. It's there to stop the "mum's and dad's" from copying everything they come across. Big businesses know they're never going to stop the professional crackers, but if they can stop the average person from copying their product then they've got a better chance of success.
     
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    Na i don't see it...

    If you can make something to stop something then you can make something to allow it...

    Sony always tried it

    Like the cd/dvd playing systems just having "region code" printed onto the actual cd/dvd
    wich is basicly all the modchips do is skip that check or tell the system it found what it was looking for it

    I can see it now...
    MOBO Modchip "stealth" used for MB 1999

    Hell gba could of used a sliding encryption for there carts.

    Where the serial code on the cart provides the "key" to un-encrypt it on the gba end
     
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    Yah when I think about it, their system sales go up, but what bout software(games)?People would buy like atleast 5games(so 5 $30 is 150dollars just for gms
     
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    Betting 10 USD it gets cracked within 24 hours of it's released.
     
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    We heard something like that some years ago with the Palladium thing which was supposed to be included in Vista. It will never exist. Never.
     
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    PC gaming is almost dead, Crysis has barely made 1m sales to date. This will bury it.
     
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    Eh, PC gaming will never die, many people prefer the PC for games over consoles. As long as they still make games and hardware continues to advance, there will always be PC gamers. Also in Crysis' case, that game has steep hardware requirements I believe to just play the game decently so not many people would want to buy the game unless they upgraded their PC first, I for one.
     
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    Also, a lot of people who got Crysis just got it to show how many fps they are getting and for e-peen saying what settings they can run it at [​IMG]
     
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    So true ;p
     
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    Safe to say...Everything human built/programmed can be 'crackable' by another human.
     
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    To compete with consoles, PC graphics have to be at least on the same level and are often higher. And to do that, you need a LOT of hardware power. The PC is also harder to develop for, because they all use different hardware unlike consoles. The fact is, if you have a PC that can play these new games, you probably spent all of your money on it and know how to pirate.
     
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