EA hints PSP2 powerful as PS3/ Pachter predicts it'll be dead

[shakirmoledina]

ipod is not meant for fast paced games like soccer, racing, wrestling etc bcz the controls are tht good no matter how fine tuned they are because its very difficult to implement a touch screen as a d-pad or analog stick
i think the 3ds will still be better esp due to 3D and not as much the gameplay (atleast in the beginning)

 

[Juanmatron]

I don't respect Sony. They didn't create games for the own systems, they think technologhy sells systems. All the games are third party titles that they get because they paid a good quantity of money for them. They did that with PS1 and they continue with PS3. PS2 has a great quantity of third-party games, but this is funny because is the weakest system of his generation and is like or even more difficult to program than Saturn. Now, the excuse with Nintendo is "Wii is so weak" or "Nintendo goes casual", the real funny thing is Nintendo never was hardcore.

Citation please.
Sales say much differently.
The ps2 has sold 147.6 million (as of November 2010) and is STILL selling. Comare that to the xbox (24 million, and does not sell anymore), and is close to the gamecube (22 million). Hell, even the wii has less overall sales so far. Games are still being made for it, too. In terms of specs, it was below the xbox but it was better than the gamecubes. Saying the ps2 is the weakest of its gen is a very hard thing to say.

1º PS2 sold already because PS3 doesn't have backwards compatibility (only cost 15€ put in PS3)
2º GCN is more powerful than PS2. If you talk about XBOX 1-Wii, Wii is more powerful than XBOX. The only reason why XBOX show better graphics than Wii is for the lack of Vertex Shaders.
3º Who talked about sales? If the sales says a console is far better, why all this hate to Wii?

 

[Stevetry]

PSP2 is doom from the start like the psp was this are just new to try to trick us

You know I seriously have to question the integrity of gamers and developers these days. Saying the PSP doomed, or failed is simply bullshit.

Compare it to the DS, sure, it couldn't compete with it. But if we're going to say a system that sold 60 million consoles failed, then by all means, PS3 and 360 bombed this generation too didn't they?

60 million is a STRONG, very STRONG sales figure. If not, then PS3 sucked this generation, so did the 360 because Wii outsold them. Or hell, Wii failed too because it couldn't compete with the DS.



On topic: PSP2 isn't as powerful as the PS3. There's simply no way. It's impossible at this time.

But we've probably all played handheld games that look better than Dreamcast games and even PS2, Gamecube

Dreamcast... maybe, but doubt it. Because the DS was in that area of between SNES and N64. It never surpassed the N64. Handhelds don't look better than PS2 that's for sure, and sure as hell not better than GameCube because GameCube was a stronger console than the PS2.

60 million is a STRONG, very STRONG yes it is strong IN mexico

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Considering the PSP is the 1st of it's handheld type(I think), I'd say that's done extremely well considering Nintendo dominates the handheld scene.

and the ds is the first system of it type i think

 

[MFDC12]

I don't respect Sony. They didn't create games for the own systems, they think technologhy sells systems. All the games are third party titles that they get because they paid a good quantity of money for them. They did that with PS1 and they continue with PS3. PS2 has a great quantity of third-party games, but this is funny because is the weakest system of his generation and is like or even more difficult to program than Saturn. Now, the excuse with Nintendo is "Wii is so weak" or "Nintendo goes casual", the real funny thing is Nintendo never was hardcore.

Citation please.
Sales say much differently.
The ps2 has sold 147.6 million (as of November 2010) and is STILL selling. Comare that to the xbox (24 million, and does not sell anymore), and is close to the gamecube (22 million). Hell, even the wii has less overall sales so far. Games are still being made for it, too. In terms of specs, it was below the xbox but it was better than the gamecubes. Saying the ps2 is the weakest of its gen is a very hard thing to say.

1º PS2 sold already because PS3 doesn't have backwards compatibility (only cost 15€ put in PS3)
2º GCN is more powerful than PS2. If you talk about XBOX 1-Wii, Wii is more powerful than XBOX. The only reason why XBOX show better graphics than Wii is for the lack of Vertex Shaders.
3º Who talked about sales? If the sales says a console is far better, why all this hate to Wii?

1. the ps3 had ps2 support, and if i remember correctly it did not have great compatibility when they had software emulation, and ok compatibility when they had hardware (keep in mind this is just going by memory. according to the sales chart (See point 3) the ps2 was still selling more even when the ps3 had compatibilty - and started declining after 2008 (which is after compatible ps3s stopped production, iirc). i dont think you can say its still selling only because the ps3 does not have support, because those sales will be different (i am not saying there are not people who buy it because of that either, though.)
2. ok you got me there, i was not looking at the specs right.
3. i brought up sales because when i thought weakest you meant all around, including sales. also you say you are surprised that they had a lot of third party games because it was hard to code for. that is not very suprising to me considering the sales chart which the ps2 had the top sales in both of its competors lifetime. they are going to go where the money is - and that was the ps2. but that is not to say the xbox and ps2 did not share games, either.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

I don't respect Sony. They didn't create games for the own systems, they think technologhy sells systems. All the games are third party titles that they get because they paid a good quantity of money for them. They did that with PS1 and they continue with PS3. PS2 has a great quantity of third-party games, but this is funny because is the weakest system of his generation and is like or even more difficult to program than Saturn. Now, the excuse with Nintendo is "Wii is so weak" or "Nintendo goes casual", the real funny thing is Nintendo never was hardcore.

Citation please.
Sales say much differently.
The ps2 has sold 147.6 million (as of November 2010) and is STILL selling. Comare that to the xbox (24 million, and does not sell anymore), and is close to the gamecube (22 million). Hell, even the wii has less overall sales so far. Games are still being made for it, too. In terms of specs, it was below the xbox but it was better than the gamecubes. Saying the ps2 is the weakest of its gen is a very hard thing to say.


I think he meant it is the weakest, where the GC and Xbox have stronger chips and whatnot in it. Could be wrong though.

DP DreamcastPortable?

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60 million is a STRONG, very STRONG yes it is strong IN mexico

Worldwide it's a strong number.

 

[mameks]

DP DreamcastPortable?

*wants*

 

[Goli]

Yes yes the PSP is so dead, it doesn't have any successful games et cetera, et cetera. Oh, but what is this?
Why can't people just accept that the PSP is a strong platform and that it does have good, successful, fun games? It's like everyone is a butthurt DS fanboy.

I would like see a game by Sony doing that. Even that, is not impressive than Dragon Quest IX numbers

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It doesn't matter if a game is made by Sony or not, the thing is the PSP isn't crap as everyone says, just like the DS, the PSP is slowing down on the games department, but there are still big name games coming out for it soon, like The 3rd Birthday, Final Fantasy Agito XIII and others I'm forgetting. They'll probably sell more than what your average DS game does too.
Also, know your numbers, first week sales of Dragon Quest IX on Japan: 2,318,932. Just a few more copies than Monster Hunter Portable 3rd, and this is freaking Dragon Quest we're talking about. So it IS impressive.

What I mean is this game could appear in any platform and causes a sales explosion for another console. The funny thing is Sony can't do this with his own console and depends on the third parties. In that case, why the fuck they make a console if they can do anything interesting in their own console? For do that, I prefer Sega creating consoles again.

Because Dragon Quest is a Nintendo series. It's still a Square Enix series that Nintendo just published. Well, in America. It's still done by a third party dev.

And since sales are what make good games I guess Medal of Honor is just fucking awesome. Call of Duty is like the best game ever too. And to hell with all of them, Wii Play is just such a piece of quality work.

You're just obviously too drawn into the "Nintendo is the best Sony sucks" mentality. I mean I don't even touch my PSP much nowadays and I'm definitely more of a DS person but the fact you can't see any merit in the other console because you think Nintendo is the best is just stupid. You can't call yourself a gamer until you're able to accept the merits of any and all systems.

Dragon Quest VII and VIII are both availiable only on PS1 and PS2 respectively... There have been no Dragon Quest games on Sony platforms this generation though, if there was one on PSP maybe it wouldn't get bashed so much

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[Guild McCommunist]

Dragon Quest VII and VIII are both availiable only on PS1 and PS2 respectively... There have been no Dragon Quest games on Sony platforms this generation though, if there was one on PSP maybe it wouldn't get bashed so much

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It was sarcasm FYI. He was saying that Sony needed third parties to prop up their system but referenced a third party game as a first party one, aka he was misinformed.